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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLouise Mensch makes no bones about being a conservative. I don't care.
When Hillary lost the election, Louise was screaming out: "She was robbed! And Putin was behind it!" while most Dems were still in shock or standing in a circular firing squad.
Here are some of her tweets from today. For those who are wondering why any progressives ever follow her, one reason I do is that I'm glad to know that there are some non-Democrats who feel the same way about DT as we do, and are trying to help. (And the people who follow her often provide links to useful MSM pieces, just like DUers do).
We will be political opponents again someday, but for now, as Louise Mensch repeats over and over, it's "patriotism over party." And she's right. (And she's also right about single payer.)
Louise Mensch?Verified account @LouiseMensch
I shouldn't have to vote Democrat to avoid voting traitor; that means I rely on @FBI to clean house - as a conservative I need it.
Sir I am a Republican. I implore you be careful of avoiding the tough legal love we desperately need. They all need arresting sir/
Sir all due respect my party deserves and needs cleansing fire. Conservatives deserve non traitors to vote for. That means RICO all the way.
I'm a British conservative. The NHS is Gospel. I support single payer fully.
A brilliant idea I heard was to open Medicaid to all comers.
Link to tweet
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and countless others....
She supported Trump during the election...
She's been exposed several times....her Koolaid runs out pretty fast..
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)She started tweeting against him from the time he first started to run.
During Evan McMullin's short run, she supported him. But after DT won the primary, she strongly supported Hillary.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and why is she hiding her support for Trump?
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)I googled and couldn't find any evidence of this.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Not sure if google is broken or something in your part of the world..
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)There are several DU threads already on this as well...
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Your credibility is sinking fast.
You probably would have to cite a pro-Trump site, and that's what's holding you back.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)in a fake...the threads are all over DU on her exposure...even Stevie Wonder can find them
It's like talking to a Trump supporter, and showing them all the evidence on how bad Trump is, and they still believe that he is the greatest thing since sliced bread...
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Sorry, but I"m not going to go swimming in the pro-Trump swamp where you obviously are finding your theories.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and you still refuse to look at them..
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)google Louise Mensch is a fake or something along those lines..
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)for you to find the link you're referring to.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And she certainly isn't hiding her political views.
KTM
(1,823 posts)That seems like the kind of confidently made statement for which there is some sort of proof... i'm sure i'm not alone in my desire that you share it.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)She is a conservative, and I disagree with her on many, many things, but she legitimately loathes Trump and all he stands for. And has for a long time.
Put up or shut up.
I'm interested and like that she says who she is. Also, we can agree on patriotism over party and single payer. PLus, from the day she brought the 'British Dossier' to the attention of not only us but the intelligence communities, I have been reading what she has to say. She has detractors, but I say to each their own. I won't try to convince them and they won't me.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)She runs a glorified twitter gossip and conspiracy theory column.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)And let's not forget she was a columnist for the Sun, one of the sleaziest papers in the world.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)She has hated on DT in any venue she's ever written in, including Heat Street. She is a conservative so she's written in conservative outlets. But she's an ally on DT and that's all I care about at the moment.
You, for some reason, think it's important to attack a Never Trumper who is trying to rally other conservatives to the anti-Trump side. I don't get it.
nini
(16,672 posts)Sbe started out that way to rope people in then started to slowly pull the wool over everyone's eyes. I wrote her off after a week or so.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)GOP primary. She couldn't stand him and was hoping someone like Jeb Bush would win.
nini
(16,672 posts)And far too many have fallen for her distractions.
I dont have to agree with or approve of, everything someone says to find value in what they say.
for now, I find her postings useful.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)Why dismiss anyone with possible Trump info at this point? She obviously has some connections.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)If not, then she is clearly mentally ill. Perhaps both.
I know what I'm talking about.
I still read her feed daily, but with an open mind.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)usually mean they got nothing but nothing, so they attack the journalist on a personal level. She won't be intimidated by their bullshit attacks.
I like her retweets too:
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)its bull or not, it gets at Republicans and apparently Trump. That's a positive for me. Some of the hysterical anti mensch posters here would want to have a good look at themselves, especially at their uber purity indignation. As you said, she doesn't hide who she is, and at the very least she has entertainment value for me.K
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)But even the MSM can get things wrong, for example, the NY Times last fall.
And she doesn't hide her conservatism -- and I like that about her. I appreciate all the conservatives who were Never Trumpers and didn't change their minds after the election.
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)There is an entire troll propaganda army attacking her for that. Like a large orchestra of air guitars, nothing but nothing, so they just make shit up and throw it at her.
melman
(7,681 posts)Her history more than speaks for itself. There is a long record of terrible statements and actions that are verifiably real.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)So she can fuck right off with that.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)if you read her tweets.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Including the same ones currently in the process of trying to privatize it. If you say you're against the NHS in Britain it's immediate political suicide.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Seriously though, why are you defending this right winger? Because she posts a lot of anti-Trump stuff on Twitter, suddenly she's an ally who we're supposed to stand up for? She's openly conservative and a self-described Republican.
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pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Response to pnwmom (Reply #26)
Kathy M This message was self-deleted by its author.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)not an employee of hers. Earlier he had said that he was going to be too busy from now on, and was going to drop off twitter. She and others said goodbye.
Big deal.
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obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)That isn't what that twitter exchange is about at all -- I even went to twitter and read the whole exchange. Like you said, it's just one of her "twitter friends" saying they are dropping off of twitter for a bit. WE all have friends who do that sometimes.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)nocalflea
(1,387 posts)Louise has put in countless hours of research, she has sought out advice from respected experts from the law, technology and intelligence communities (and unlike some, she has shared her data/work product). For these reasons, I believe Louise is sincere.
Louise's inability to moderate her behavior is problematic. Her inability to take or ignore criticism leads to twitter feuds galore, ad-hominem attacks and accusations which her devotees rush to take part in (ex N. Jamali).She does nothing to dissuade them. Yes, Louise is the victim of a concerted campaign to discredit her (some of the people attacking her are disinfo agents).
Louise's black or white absolutism leads her to knee-jerkingly label people as enemies or traitors and "Team Trump"- former CIA deputy director Mike Morrell, a staunch anti-Trumper was labeled this after praising the Syria missle attack. His praise was consistent with his views re Syria going back at least three years (The man once praised Hil. Clinton's compassion in an interview with Ch. Rose, for god's sake).All this makes it difficult for me to trust Louise's judgement.
I believe Louise does have sources. I believe, that she believes her sources are who they say they are. Again, I believe she is sincere.
It is Louise's lack of judgement, that makes it extremely difficult for me to trust her sources.Jamali was a source,now he's Team Treason.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)That being said, I don't mind our allies being flawed, as long as they strongly oppose DT, as she clearly does.
Hope, inspiration, determination, we need it all.
DrivingOnThe Left
(33 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)She comes off like an idiot there.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)TV news outlets here are not exactly clamoring to have her on their shows
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Crap like this:
Sources further say that the Supreme Court notified Mr. Trump that the formal process of a case of impeachment against him was begun, before he departed the country on Air Force One. The notification was given, as part of the formal process of the matter, in order that Mr. Trump knew he was not able to use his powers of pardon against other suspects in Trump-Russia cases. Sources have confirmed that the Marshal of the Supreme Court spoke to Mr. Trump.
Does that bother you at all?
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)and her putting Country over Party.
I do not need others to like her... I just do all by myself.
I also started following her immediately after election because she was one of the few voices taking Trump/Russia seriously and dedicating her time and energy to uncovering info from all kinds of angles.
Go Louise! Go Louise!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)So many examples to pick from to illustrate my point, but I'll go with this tweet about Bernie Sanders...
Link to tweet
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)was perplexing.
And as she is a conservative and does not realize what's going on in our party she reached that conclusion at that moment.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The world is perplexing. So anyone who posts nonsense every time she confronts a perplexing situation is not somebody credible.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)I disagree with Bernie on that point, but calling him a Russian agent is simply insane.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)I know what you mean and it was just a quick observation she made. It is not her most important point and she is more interested in Trump's part and the current misadministration treasonous acts.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)She's full of shit. People need to stop falling for her conspiracy theory bullshit.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)More power to her, and to John Schindler, and to any other conservative among the opposition.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)The fact that they have such a following points to the utter lack of critical thinking skills on the part of their followers. It discredits all of us as a bunch of gullible idiots. Same as the 9/11 conspiracy theorists did.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)All while trashing Mensch. I don't have to like her to understand what she is doing is helping us. It helps to keep the narrative going.
It's like people haven't the slightest clue how Benghazi actually hurt us. Keeping the narrative alive for months on end is hugely beneficial. That means all hands on deck and the use of all willing to help.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)she was out there screaming that narrative. And she's never stopped. Good for her.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Hurt her if she runs for office and is looking at the wrong end of an oppo file. She is obviously very smart and very capable, but Twitter never forgets.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't put any of this in terms of Mensch. If she runs for office I hope she gets clobbered. I could care less about her outside of her assistance in pushing this narrative.
Is such a completely disreputable wackaloon that I am instantly suspicious of the motives of anyone that would come here to defend her. When it comes to her drivel I'd sooner trust a story that a crackhead told me about why he needed to borrow 20 bucks. Same level of reliability.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)..uh..'HIPPA'
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as someone said on twitter, "It's almost like she's not American and doesn't know what she's talking about."
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So she is a cross-disciplinary idiot. Most idiots are only good at one topic.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)for mental health issues..
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)I started reading about her and thought she was being unfairly targeted. Then I kept reading some more and then found a few videos of her PRAISING Trump over and over.
I also saw a video of her being interviewed by the BBC I think, and she showed what a nutcase she is. She was mocked and laughed at by the host and guests when the connection ended.
Don't think she's a plant.....she's just insane. Something's very wrong with her.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)after reviewing those videos of her praising Trump...
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Do not feel like looking for the Tweet, but she recently posted something that I recall as Putin is not the main issue, the Russians are, Putin is the Russian leader, so that makes him the focus. Her friend 20 committees is the same way, though he is far more of an expert on Russia, having fought them for his working life.
melman
(7,681 posts)I thought she deleted it. She didn't. So if there's any doubt about that screenshot..
it's real.
Link to tweet
plus there's some good comedy in the replies there.
like this
Link to tweet
and this
Link to tweet
HipChick
(25,485 posts)are gems...