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"An emotional Donald Trump supporter on Tuesday told CNNs Don Lemon he wouldnt be able to afford health insurance if it werent for Obamacare, the signature legislation the president has promised to repeal.
Lemon also spoke with pastor and veteran Janice Hill, whose daughter would have died without the Affordable Care Act.
Youre a life long republican, yet you and your wife are insured through Obamacare, Lemon said to guest Don Riscoe. What will happen to that insurance if Obamacare is repealed?
We probably wont be insured, a visibly upset Riscoe replied.
You okay? Lemon asked.
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Yes, he said. We wont be insured if Obamacare goes away. We wont be able to afford premiums.
I know we cant afford $1,000 a month, he continued. I dont know the exact number but
we wouldnt be able to afford coverage without the infrastructure.
Riscoe said Obamacare does have problems that need to get fixed. I hope that theres something that will be in place that we can still have coverage for myself and a lot of others, Riscoe said.
Pastor Hill told Lemon the bills plan to slash funding for Medicaid is really whats going to hurt.
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When they take away Medicaid, its not only going to hurt my daughter who is not on Medicaid now because shes working full time, but its going to hurt the people in my state. Its going to hurt veterans, which im a veteran. Ten percent of veterans are on medicaid.
Its going to hurt the employment rate, she continued. Its going to hurt peoples access to health coverage. Theyre not going to go for any kind of preventive care. Its going to be critical when they do go. Its going to cost more money. This bill doesnt make sense.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/watch-emotional-donald-trump-supporter-explains-that-his-family-wont-be-insured-if-obamacare-goes-away/?comments=disqus
I do not have much sympathy for these people who voted for trump. They reaped what they sowed
ck4829
(35,077 posts)iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)eaters," "welfare moms with Cadillacs," "lazy people getting fat and sick on my dime," etc., only referring to minorities and single moms (why single moms? go to MRA sites and read up, you'll see that white single moms are slammed, too).
The fact that they, too, are composed mostly of single parents, sick and old and injured people and thus are going to be on the chopping block as well? It doesn't occur to them that those fine Christian gentlemen they voted for were actually talking about them, too.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Darwin rules
cyndensco
(1,697 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Make up a large number of Americans today. I have the least sympathy for these deplorable idiots. They are getting what THEY deserve.
malaise
(269,054 posts)No they make up large numbers of people living on our planet
TexasBushwhacker
(20,202 posts)Instead of just bitching and moaning.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Was the guy that actually cared about you.
Coventina
(27,121 posts)We all know what that reason was.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)Coventina
(27,121 posts)Just not YOUR family.
Fuck you, you racist scum.
we can do it
(12,189 posts)Golden Raisin
(4,609 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)It's time we start lecturing, ridiculing and withholding sympathy from ignorant Republican voters. If they want to inflict this misery upon the rest of us, then we need to start calling them out for their ignorance and voting history.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Would be my guess.
irisblue
(32,981 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)These people aren't voting for their own interests. Voting for a white supremacist outweighs health care for his own family.
As if these idiots had no idea they would lose their health care. They knew it and voted to lose it anyway.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)You need to get a job or another job you lazy slackers....or some variation on that sentiment.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)and concentrate on being a racist and bigot? That's what I voted for.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Health care at a lower cost. Fools.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)sarisataka
(18,663 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Please get in touch when we pass that milestone.
packman
(16,296 posts)Total blank behind his hypocrisy. He'd still vote for someone pushing the same agenda as Trump - screw the minority and the non-white .
LBM20
(1,580 posts)Doodley
(9,095 posts)Akamai
(1,779 posts)have conspired to pull the wool over the eyes of American voters and billions and billions of dollars have been spent to mislead so many voters in the Red States.
I am not sure that I could have withstood the lies if I were pickled in the vitriol spewed forth from the Right Wing psychopaths.
nini
(16,672 posts)And - he's worried now?
I give up on this country.. you can't fight stupid.
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)So what's your point. You knew when you voted for me I would repeal Obama care...
Coventina
(27,121 posts)Trump repeatedly promised to repeal Obamacare on DAY 1!!!!
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Trump loves them, and he's getting those brown people out of this country and making America great again!
Another leopard satisfies its hunger.
hatrack
(59,587 posts).
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)This goes beyond Trump. Republicans for decades now have refused to move on implementing a health care plan. Bush had 8 years and never did. Republicans stymied Clinton's efforts in the 90s. So what exactly is this person's attraction to the Republican party?
aggiesal
(8,918 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)You win the internets today!
aggiesal
(8,918 posts)There will be a little extra in your paycheck next week.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Okay, bright guy, what problems?
Do you have healthcare under Obamacare? Check
Can you afford the premiums? Check
No lifetime maximum? Check
No exclusion for pre-existing conditions? Check
Medicaid coverage where states allow it? Check
So, again, bright guy, what problems need to be fixed. Think of this as a school essay question. Give specific, fact-based examples, not talking points from Fox.
Now, under the deathcare act, will you have healthcare? Nope.
Will you be able to afford the premiums. Nope.
Lifetime max? Yep.
Pre-existing conditions? Too bad.
Medicaid? Yeah, right.
Sorry, bright guy, you own this. And, sadly, millions more of you fellow Americans - Democrats, Republicans, Christians, Jews, Black, White - will be in the same situation.
+1
This whole, "Obamacare has problems" narrative has even been pushed by most libs. The narrative should have always been, Obamacare isn't perfect, but it's still fantastic. It's a remarkable law that has helped millions. It was never advertised properly, people are using Obamacare and they don't even know it. They use it when they get preventative treatment, they use it when they switch jobs and can get insurance at their new job with a preexisting condition. They use it whenever a serious illness occurs and there is no max on the care the receive. Most people in America have used Obamacare even if they didn't buy their insurance from the exchanges.
And the Reps have zero clues as to how to replace it with anything that won't kill thousands of citizens and bankrupt millions.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)pretty goddamned good! Sure saves a lot of lives, reduces fears, etc.
Just a few tweaks since it was passed would have ensured its improvements, but the Republicans have refused to allow the basic improvements that every major bill has required. And the Republicans have been protected by a mainstream press that is lying about the responsibility for the current health care problems.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)What is amazing is that Health Care is now viewed as a right. The Reps aren't going to get a deal passed that takes coverage from so many millions. This is a major paradigm shift in this country.
irisblue
(32,981 posts)gets paid? Do you know how much is overhead for your ins group?
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)They are getting away with saying fuck you to 300,000,000 million people....and they will still get reelected.
That ain't easy.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)the republiklan party doesn't think any more of them as humans, than they do minorities.
They voted for blacks to lose insurance coverage, not themselves. Trump voters would be ecstatic if they came up with a white's only universal coverage.
treestar
(82,383 posts)that the US would have the largest safety net in the US if it were all white.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Oh, because now you realize your vote affects you too.
You can't keep hiding behind claiming you were lied to - because plenty of people told you the facts and you refused to listen.
Take your fucking blinders off - there's a whole other world out there.
reflection
(6,286 posts)It's all God's will, don't fret about your daughter.
Grins
(7,218 posts)Ruscoe took health care for granted. Between him and his wife, at least one of them had a job with health care benefits. He was one of those who thought he would always be covered - until he wasn't.
Then, he struck out on his own and, sometime later, his wife lost her job. They went on COBRA until that benefit ran out, leaving them screwed without tattoos! Ruscoe was 'bigly' overweight and couldn't find a policy to cover him "at any price." He and his wife got catastrophic coverage for $200 a month that came with a whopping $25,000 deductible they also couldn't afford, so; i.e., avoid going to doctors!
And then came Obamacare. He took advantage of it the minute he could, and - immense relief. All was good.
And then he voted for Trump.
As others have said; "Empathy, but no sympathy."
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)empathy and sympathy for him and his family. For being so fucking hateful and stupid that they voted to cut their lifeline in exchange for cement shoes. I hope he enjoys the shit show coming his way.
EPA defunded and deregulated so companies are free dump their toxic waste where they want. When people get sick from it, the legal system is stacked against them with conservative judges and tort reform to limit settlements. Then to top it off no access to insurance to negate the cost of getting sick. Hospitals going under because they can't afford to treat all the people for free. So he and his family will go bankrupt and broke trying to save the life of their loved one, who dies anyhow. Then they come down with the same ailment and no money left for treatment. Die a slow and agonizing death.
Instead they could have voted for the woman with solid plans and experience to make their loves better. But she is a Democrat. So they believed all the lies spewed about her over the decades and couldn't vote for her. Instead voted for the man who spewed nothing but lies. They were told over and over about his volatile personality and how he screwed people out of their money. Verifiable fact. They heard the vulgar names he called women and minorities, straight from his own mouth. He justified and normalized his sexual assaults..that trump admitted to.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Not being funny about it. The ones I know are vindictive azzholes. They care little about others. Suffer, is their motto. Even the ones in the same shoes as tRump voter Janice Hill. They've been programmed by years of RW media to hate democrats so purely, they'll vote against their own best interests. And guess what? In the 2018 mid-terms, they'll enthusiastically vote for more Rethug rule, because they are vindictive. They can't help themselves.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)everything but a few of our clothes, bought a RV, and traveled the USA for 8 years. Our doctor for 15 years did not come with us. We had no problem finding good doctors. Our main sources for recommendations were: a) the ER physicians, and b) our health insurance info booklet. We never got a dud for personal care physicians in 8 years. About every 3 months, we moved 300 to 500 miles and got new physicians as needed. What we learned was that ERs usually are not crowded 8-4, M-F. I got ER service in East Texas on a Monday at 9am. They were so happy to see me for an insect bite because I'm not a redneck and I did not have a redneck weekend wound (cut with a beer bottle, stabbed, shot, or sliced with a chainsaw). Those customers arrive Friday evening through late Sunday night. Monday morning for that rural county hospital is quite. And, they like customers who can pay. That was like getting a new review on all of the previous services. Each physician we saw in our travels added value to my treatment for diabetes and my wife's treatment for arthritis. My advice: be flexible about getting new doctors -- it will likely improve your health. We have given up our nomadic life and get our health care from a university medical center. About every 2 years, our primary care physician changes (promotions and new opportunities) and we get a new one. It's great. A fresh look all over.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)people who, even though told and warned for months and even years, STILL acted in ways diametrically opposed to their own self-interests!
Episode 1: Trump voters who lose their health insurance!
Laughs abound as we watch various family members scramble to pay for both food and health care! Starring Sit-Com veteran Tim Allen and the ever-whacky Victoria Jackson. Guest-starring as the curmudgeonly health-insurance Administrator is action-man-and-comedic-actor Bruce Willis.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Love the buyer REMORSE setting in for these Trump voters.
treestar
(82,383 posts)You won't be choosing to buy it. You don't want it if you have to pay 1K per month, and so you won't choose to buy it.
SDJay
(1,089 posts)enough of these fucking rubes will wake up enough to make a difference for the country as a whole is if they get pounded. I mean hit so fucking hard that they are on their knees BEGGING for things that they took for granted their whole lives. You know, begging for things Democrats gave them.
Even then, the protective veil of stupidity put out there by Faux and right wing hate radio will be very difficult to pierce. There's too much money in it for them, so they'll either blame everything on the black guy or Hillary or what-the-fuck-ever instead of the real scum that did this to them.
It's going to be difficult and take a lot of time and require a lot of suffering and worse, but we're in this now and I think one way out of it is for enough of these fools to perhaps connect the dots between their own bigotry, hate and voting record and their own misery. You're not going to change their minds any other way.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)SHIT and thanks for being an uninformed BIGOT.
That is all.
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)Not just the Trump supporters but GOP supporters. The GOP has been saying for 8 years they want to do this, and yet their supporters remained steadfast.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)for gosh sakes! That was his primary rallying call!
This is so bizarre and doesn't make sense, so that I wonder if these were really Trump supporters.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)I don't actually think they were in large numbers and still they still aren't. This so-called huge opposition was likely a lie pushed by Faux and the RW media.
Most got their insurance through work anyway so it had no real effect on them or their family personally. Those who did not were able to purchase individual insurance that actually covered them with no limits and in spite of any pre-existing conditions.
chaplain_M
(48 posts)Your loss of health care (and likely your health) is offset by the joy you'll have in seeing the top 2% of wealthy Americans getting that YUUUGE tax refund.
kysrsoze
(6,022 posts)lark
(23,105 posts)they are truly that ignorant and self-destructive. I have zero pity on them, they are getting exactly what they deserve. I have contempt only. Who I pity are all those who voted against orange assface and the transfer of wealth from the working class to the rich, who fought against him and his policies and who are getting hurt regardless. I feel lots of empathy for those folks getting "killed" by Putin's puppet and the reason is the worst - it's getting done for personal profit for the resident and congress as well as those who bribe them.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)He is getting bans on people of other colors, religions, lazy disabled people, and those horrible LGBT people. You get what you voted for so be a big boy and own it.
UT_democrat
(143 posts)but, part of me says, "Boo Fucking Hoo" to the idiot tRumpsters who couldn't see past their own racist tendencies and decided to vote for chaos. Well now you'll get your chaos. Enjoy.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)"So, yeah, anyway, I'm losing my healthcare and we're fucked, but at least I can still call a n**** a n***** and grab me som p**** and harass my Muslim neighbors without consequence while I'm dying of whatever would have been covered and easily screened under Obamacare. Getting to wallow in my hatred and fear is totally worth the cost of losing my limbs to diabetes and always gasping for breath because I can't breathe on my own anymore because of the new pollution Trump gave us and the lack of ability to afford an oxygen tank because the minimum wage was removed. But at least that black man ain't in office, and the blacks around me ain't got nothin', either! Make America Great Again! Go Trump!"
Orrex
(63,216 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,183 posts)And my shipment of Fucks is on backorder, so I'm all out of Fucks To Give, too.
See me again around the first of the month, and I'll see what I can scrape up in the way of sympathy.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)And stop sharia law from finally becoming the law of the land in Alabama.
People that voted for Trump have little
Empathy and feel pain only when the knife sinks into THEIR flesh.
WoonTars
(694 posts)Did they think he was joking about repealing the ACA?
ZERO sympathy from me.
I just don't get the cognitive dissonance of these people.