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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGet this: Repub spin - We'll be spending MORE on Medicaid in 10 yrs than we spend NOW! So not a cut!
I kid you not. This is the new spin, I guess. On Andrea Mitchell show, a Mr. Chen I think his name is.
We will be spending MORE on Medicaid in 10 years than we spend NOW, so that's not a cut. It won't affect those sick kids and others. No problem!
Seriously. It's an insult to Americans to think we're so stupid as to fall for this ridiculous spin that it's not really a cut.
Do any of you expect to have your current salary changed to what it was 10 years ago, and not have to cut some of your expenses or savings plans? Anyone? Because you know, if you are getting paid what you were paid 10 years ago, you have not experienced a CUT in income, have you?
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)cost per person? If it more people are using it but the cost per person is down it's still a cut.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)from what it is now, and more, so that the program is on the same trajectory now, rural hospitals, nursing homes, people, will start having to cut back, firing people, not getting health care.
unblock
(52,253 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)rjohn
(3 posts)Go to Robert Reich's site for a concise and cogent analysis of that bill. On Medicaid he says:
"States would receive an amount of money per Medicaid recipient that appears to grow as healthcare costs rise.
But starting in 2025, the payments would be based on how fast costs rise in the economy as a whole.
Yet medical costs are rising faster than overall costs. Theyll almost surely continue to do so as Americas elderly population grows, and as new medical devices, technologies, and drugs prolong life. Which means that after 2025, Medicaid coverage will shrink.
The nonpartisan Urban Institute estimates that between 2025 and 2035, about $467 billion less will be spent on Medicaid than would be spent than if Medicaid funding were to keep up with the expected rise in medical costs.
The states would have to make up the difference, but many wont want to or be able to."
One point I would like to make concerning this issue; I call this bill the "Make Room for Daddy" legislation which is a thinly disguised piece of misogyny. By cutting Medicaid, which crosses the entire population, one particular effect would be to either bankrupt generations of families or force a child or their spouse to stay home and take care of an aging, ill parent. How? To get a parent with a debilitating disease into proper care, a family now needs to go through pyrotechnics depending on whether both parents are alive, their condition, what's in the bank etc. Before a nursing home will take someone they will demand up to six months minimum payment from the family at a cost of anywhere from $7,000.00 to $12,000.00 a month. If the well parent is still alive they are allowed to remain in their home, but the parents' assets must be spent down. If the other parent has passed then the estate goes to the state. Then Medicaid kicks in to finance the remainder of the ill parents remaining days in care or until hospice. With these Medicaid dollars gone and no longer available for long term care, many families will not be able to afford nursing home care, necessitating the children to intervene by paying for in home care or by taking "daddy" into their homes, where the reality is that someone needs to quit a job and stay home to care for that parent. Medicaid pays for in home care also so kiss that goodbye. This will be a devastating reality for most, if not nearly all, middle class Americans, white, black and Latino. WOW. Talk about disasters. Upended living situations, loss if income, reduced tax base, stress factors. Are the Republicans kidding?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's true that Trumpers are stupid and uninformed, but not the majority of Americans, to fall for the argument that it's not a cut (believe US and not what your lyin' eyes show you).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)would please both the hard-core white males who are the pub base and the religious right. I've read that 7 times more women than men turn their lives upside down to become caretakers for relatives.
Welcome to DU, rjohn.
spanone
(135,844 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Mitch says the CBO report is a good thing because it shows that "premiums will decrease," and now this future medicaid cost spin. I think there was a third example this week, but it's such a blur.
Anyway, this newspeak messaging smells like new bullshit on top of old bullshit.