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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWA Post: A state-by-state list of how they're handling the request for voter roll data.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/glance-how-states-are-handling-voter-information-request/2017/06/30/e1184072-5df3-11e7-aa69-3964a7d55207_story.html?utm_term=.b8d9d20b4f06State-by-state responses to a request for detailed voter data from President Donald Trumps Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, which is investigating whether there was voter fraud in last years election.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)POS of a Secretary of State here in Nevada is sending the Knuckle Dragger Kobach our Voter registration lists.
Another f---n Tea Bagger.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)See if it merits filing a complaint.
https://www.aclunv.org/en/how-aclu-nevada-accepts-cases
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)Thanks for that link by the way
Reading through the individual state responses, from deny to partial to undecided, it's obvious the State Secretaries intend to follow their State's laws - which overwhelmingly prohibit the transfer of private information such as birth dates and SS numbers.
How could the morons requesting this info not know this?! Of course they know! This is all a big show
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)to set up a system of voter disenfranchisement, it's really *stupid.* Apparently none of the numpties who decided to put this dog's breakfast together bothered to look at what kind of data the states have and which of the data are considered private. As it turns out, the states all have different laws about what can and can't be disclosed, or to whom.
Some states just said fuck you; you can't have any of it. And not all of these were "blue" states - some GOP state officials won't turn it over because of their opposition to Big Government and their belief in principles of states' rights. The Democrats said fuck you simply because they know the data would be used for voter suppression.
But even among those states that agreed to turn over some of the records, most of them said they'd give up only those data that were classified as public under state law. That means they weren't going to give up a lot of the data Kobach's goons want, like (depending on the state) SSNs, birth dates, criminal history, party identification and voting history.
So what this means is that whatever database they can eventually put together will be useless. If they can get only partial data from some states and none at all from others, they won't be able to reach any statistically credible conclusions about anything, let alone the "proof" of voter fraud they want the data to substantiate.
And on top of all that, who wants to send vast amounts of data about individuals to a central repository with no assurances it will be secure? What a treasure trove for scammers, identity thieves and Russian (or other) hackers (assuming Trump doesn't just hand the password over to Putin himself).
Will the refusal of so many states to turn over the data they want make them just give up? I hope so but I'm not holding my breath.
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)She wrote:
"The Constitution delegates **the right to conduct Presidential elections to the States**. The only requirement is that each state must have its rules defined in their State Constitution. Therefore, I believe there might be a question as to **whether or not the Federal Government has the constitutional right to supervise the states' handling of Presidential contests from the perspective of controlling (or interfering with) voter registration records.** "
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)As well as some good Democratic ones.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)I would have bet dollars to doughnuts that Rick Scott would have personally taken it in. But according to the list, no decision as been made yet. Wonders never cease.
HAB911
(8,911 posts)SecretaryofState@DOS.MyFlorida.com
retread
(3,763 posts)groups in order to prepare his propagandists to defend his actions.
BigmanPigman
(51,625 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)The swing states are what matters. Keep your eyes on these.
Voter data collection like this will evolve into voter intimation.
And here I thought the Republican Party valued States Rights...my bad.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
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