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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Just saw a post that our
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 11:41 PM
Jun 2017

POS of a Secretary of State here in Nevada is sending the Knuckle Dragger Kobach our Voter registration lists.

Another f---n Tea Bagger.

leftstreet

(36,111 posts)
2. What a fucking joke
Fri Jun 30, 2017, 11:50 PM
Jun 2017

Thanks for that link by the way

Reading through the individual state responses, from deny to partial to undecided, it's obvious the State Secretaries intend to follow their State's laws - which overwhelmingly prohibit the transfer of private information such as birth dates and SS numbers.

How could the morons requesting this info not know this?! Of course they know! This is all a big show

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
3. This whole thing is so ridiculous. Not only is it a pernicious, sneaky way
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jul 2017

to set up a system of voter disenfranchisement, it's really *stupid.* Apparently none of the numpties who decided to put this dog's breakfast together bothered to look at what kind of data the states have and which of the data are considered private. As it turns out, the states all have different laws about what can and can't be disclosed, or to whom.

Some states just said fuck you; you can't have any of it. And not all of these were "blue" states - some GOP state officials won't turn it over because of their opposition to Big Government and their belief in principles of states' rights. The Democrats said fuck you simply because they know the data would be used for voter suppression.

But even among those states that agreed to turn over some of the records, most of them said they'd give up only those data that were classified as public under state law. That means they weren't going to give up a lot of the data Kobach's goons want, like (depending on the state) SSNs, birth dates, criminal history, party identification and voting history.

So what this means is that whatever database they can eventually put together will be useless. If they can get only partial data from some states and none at all from others, they won't be able to reach any statistically credible conclusions about anything, let alone the "proof" of voter fraud they want the data to substantiate.

And on top of all that, who wants to send vast amounts of data about individuals to a central repository with no assurances it will be secure? What a treasure trove for scammers, identity thieves and Russian (or other) hackers (assuming Trump doesn't just hand the password over to Putin himself).

Will the refusal of so many states to turn over the data they want make them just give up? I hope so but I'm not holding my breath.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
10. Samantha brought up a GOOD Constitutional point.
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 02:35 AM
Jul 2017

She wrote:

"The Constitution delegates **the right to conduct Presidential elections to the States**. The only requirement is that each state must have its rules defined in their State Constitution. Therefore, I believe there might be a question as to **whether or not the Federal Government has the constitutional right to supervise the states' handling of Presidential contests from the perspective of controlling (or interfering with) voter registration records.** "


Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
5. Well, at least Florida is not caving right off the bat.
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 12:39 AM
Jul 2017

I would have bet dollars to doughnuts that Rick Scott would have personally taken it in. But according to the list, no decision as been made yet. Wonders never cease.

retread

(3,763 posts)
13. Skeletor would like to be senator in 2018; so he needs input from focus
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 08:09 AM
Jul 2017

groups in order to prepare his propagandists to defend his actions.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
9. Swing states
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 02:15 AM
Jul 2017

The swing states are what matters. Keep your eyes on these.
Voter data collection like this will evolve into voter intimation.
And here I thought the Republican Party valued States Rights...my bad.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
11. NJ is fucked. Christie is still probably trying to suck Trump's dick. He's Wez's boy, Golden Youth.
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 07:25 AM
Jul 2017

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