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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm not worried about Pence replacing Trump
Pence doesn't have "it". He won't get the loyalty from or excite the base like Trump does. Can you imagine a rally headlined by Pence? Plus I think there'd be far less chance of Pence blowing up the world then with Trump being in charge.
underpants
(182,868 posts)But the Repubs don't play by normal rules. They've acted so quickly that it almost has a whiplash effect.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Nixon resigned and we got Ford.
Four years later we had 8 years of Reagan followed by 4 years of Bush 1.0.
So that was Nixon, Nixon/Ford, Carter, Reagan, Reagan, Bush.
That is a devastating run of Republicans by any measure.
Talk about whiplash!
Me.
(35,454 posts)Who do you think picked all the cabinet heads that are such a menace? He'll certainly do his best to stop women from receiving good health care. And, he's uber ideological, but not smart. There's a reason they call him Mike Dense in Indiana.
Kaleva
(36,328 posts)it'd be tough for him to get ultra-conservative bills though Congress.
Me.
(35,454 posts)He and Ryan are the very best of friends and have the same agenda
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Than a president who is a stupid fascist.
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)is fascists all the way down.
With one exception, DeVos! I believe that the other cabinet heads were picked by Bannon, with Haley being picked by Ivanka!
Carson was given his position based on the fact that he was black and putting a black man in charge of government housing was an inside joke with the white assholes that make up this administration!
Who better to be put in charge of what will soon be government slums, then a black man, with no concept of what the hell he's suppose to be doing?
Me.
(35,454 posts)It was Pence, head of the transition team, along with guidance from the Mercers with the way smoothed by KellyAnne "She has a much closer and longer-standing bond with Vice President Mike Pence and is equally tight with the media-shy Mercer family, who've been bankrolling the Trump-Pence agenda since well before the hyphenate "Trump-Pence" existed.
http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a43112/kellyanne-conway-profile/
Bannon was more of a newcomer w/KA only knowing him for a few years. Also, Rebekah Mercer is an advisor to 45. They, the Mercers, are very, very rightwing conservative and she Rebekah wants to blow up the government as it presently exists.
Pence is not smart but because of his beliefs can and will do a lot of damage.
spanone
(135,861 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)furtheradu
(1,865 posts)I STRONGLY believe pense is going down, too!
& a whole bunch of the republikers are going to get caught for their corruption & russia-collusion.
BELIEVE IT!
BigmanPigman
(51,624 posts)If the investigation is thorough it will get him. I think Manafort suggested Pence as his running mate. I also believe Ryan and McConnell are complicit. Is that a crime?
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)LOTS of criminals to be caught, & Team MUELLER'S investigations have to be thorough.
Sometime in the wee hours, I read that report that broke overnight, & it confirmed for me, that pense is COMPLETELY involved.
ryan was recorded in a republiker meeting, not just agreeing r's were bought & paid for by ruskies, but shut the conversation down by saying something like, "we're all family here, that's how we know we're family.." that they cover for each other.
mcconnell, crooked as a stick. I KNOW he knew the next Supreme Court nomination was theirs, & why he stole/obstructed the nomination from President Obama for a year. In fact, he obstructed for 8 years..mcconnell was in on rusky corruption for many years, I believe.
I BELIEVE a boatload of 'em are going to go down in Mueller's investigation. It will be SWEEEET!
BELIEVE IT!
Me.
(35,454 posts)Lars39
(26,110 posts)Kaleva
(36,328 posts)Both Cruz and Trump were fighting for the fundy vote early on.
Lars39
(26,110 posts)Kaleva
(36,328 posts)Trump was getting Fundie support well before he selected Pence.
madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)He's not allowed to even have dinner with any woman but his wife.
Yeesh.
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3catwoman3
(24,031 posts)...for it to be assumed that I could not control my behavior because of my anatomy/biology.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)The moron is just a figurehead.
Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, were the ones that came up with the house bill, which was the framework for the Senate bill.
If Donald Trump is impeached, the scandals reduce the screw the poor and disadvantaged give tax cuts to the rich agenda marches on
Me.
(35,454 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Yep.
As a kid we'd go to revivals at our little country church.
Quanta
(195 posts)If Trump gets ousted at this point, they are paralyzed until the midterms, no matter who they put in charge...
Kaleva
(36,328 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Aside from that, Pence is predictable and not insane. He can probably be trusted to take counsel from the (relatively)saner
Washingtonians.
Trump's stupidity, cupidity, and just plain assholery is dangerous. It caused every one of his businesses to fail, and it is now causing the failure of government.
Trump is Hamilton's greatest fear.
Pence is used to the order of things. We will not like what he may do, we may hate what he might do, but the damage will be more controllable, and we will survive it.
Kaleva
(36,328 posts)CanonRay
(14,112 posts)who doesn't give a shit about the constitution. He's a Christian Dominionist, and he's dumber than dirt
J_William_Ryan
(1,756 posts)And in many respects more dangerous than Trump.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...and that the Presidency would make him at least consider it, occasionally. Please God, I am *not* saying that the Presidency "ennobles" people, or that it brings out the best in people. Andrew Johnson? Warren Harding? LBJ? Nixon? Dubya? Our current President? The office brought out the worst in all of them. But sometimes, you get a surprise. Lincoln. Truman. Eisenhower. Ford. The odds are greatly against Pence being on this list--he's ideologically extreme, a theocrat, and not particularly smart. But at least it's *possible*. There are no possibilities whatever for Dolt45, except disaster.
Doodley
(9,119 posts)He would be hanging on by his fingertips and his presidency would be mired in suspicion and distrust. Once you lose trust, it is very, very difficult to win it back. His approval would be poor, the results of the Trump era poor decisions would be coming home to roost and an upcoming star of the Democratic Party would be a breath of fresh air for most people.
CousinIT
(9,255 posts)joet67
(624 posts)enid602
(8,644 posts)Hey Pence couldn't be such a bad guy. He was personally chosen by Manafort to be VP. Suspect he has Putin's backing as well. I wonder what's in his emails (when governor of Indiana); what's he hiding?