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http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2017/07/confused-trump-wanders-away-his-0appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)I would bet it is mini strokes or Alzheimer's
greatauntoftriplets
(175,750 posts)Yes, I think there's something very wrong with him other than that.
malaise
(269,186 posts)Frightening
greatauntoftriplets
(175,750 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)The real question is "How often will Faux News replay it?"
I'm guessing... <0
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 4, 2017, 11:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Great! It's already there!!
malaise
(269,186 posts)I don't know how to save it on Youtube
demigoddess
(6,645 posts)malaise
(269,186 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)from office, assuming they had not already impeached her.
treestar
(82,383 posts)asking pundits - is the President fit?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)candidate and "I stole the WH" president Trump, any ONE of which ends any Democrats presidency.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)in New York early because she wasn't feeling well (which happens to humans once in a while. Shocker!) Trumpf made lots of hay out of that.
He's ripe for the pickings.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Hillary is straight up, no chaser. Nobody fears smart, strong women more than Republicans do.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That guy has the nuclear codes?????
malaise
(269,186 posts)Damn!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)they guy who really gives the order after trump gives the order... won't do it..
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They will likely know he gave the order and strike us first, even if our military people refuse Trump's order.
The good thing is that the person that carries the nuclear suitcase could give Trump a suitcase with marshmallow in it and Trump would likely not know the difference.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 7, 2017, 04:03 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm sure Bush II was, too.
rocktivity
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)malaise
(269,186 posts)Scary
Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)worse too. This is the future of our country at stake. If we can go on twitter and witness that the president is incapable of accomplishing simple tasks, our enemies can see the same and use it to their advantage.
malaise
(269,186 posts)Damn!
Buns_of_Fire
(17,197 posts)brush
(53,876 posts)These repugs need to stop covering for him.
The 25th Amendment should be on the table right now.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)They were supposed to be shaking hands in the press conference.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)sheesh
thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)MFM008
(19,820 posts)And revoking poor people's care are more important.....
mnmoderatedem
(3,729 posts)Obamacare covers dementia. And since it looks like you won't be able to repeal it, you should be fine.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)concerns me far more than this.
LeftInTX
(25,563 posts)brush
(53,876 posts)Alzheimer sufferers frequently wander off.
global1
(25,272 posts)this incident. I wonder what kind of crazy story he'll make up as to why he did what he did.
malaise
(269,186 posts)Damn!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)he's obviously trying to get more exercise to show he's not low-energy. Yes, that's it.
thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)BSdetect
(8,999 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Haven't seen this on network or cable so far this morning
HipChick
(25,485 posts)malaise
(269,186 posts)No seriously this is madness - literally
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)..That's How Spoiled That Freak Of Nature Is.
malaise
(269,186 posts)It's way worse than that
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)...Thanks,
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)If I was his personal aide, I'd be sure to remind the SS guy or footman or whatever that they need to quietly call to him, "Here's your limo, Mr. President." But they left him to wander about.
I wonder if some of them want to expose him? Help initiate the "25th the 45th" movement?
malaise
(269,186 posts)SAD
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,053 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)No problem for the GOP. Ryan and McConnell would willingly ignore Trump's issues as long as he does what they want him to do.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And his cultists love him. Jim Jones and the Kool aid.
Quanta
(195 posts)More like Hilton-esque or Gambino-esque actually. The Palins were backwoods hillbillies compared to these well connected mobsters with their TV luster. Quite disturbing and way beyond anything I have ever seen!
golfguru
(4,987 posts)Gangsters versus hillbillies sums it up nicely!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Very much like a crime family indeed.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 4, 2017, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)
that occurred in Saudi Arabia. And any others that have been recorded.
On edit: not S.A.; Israel with Netanyahu.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)signed the document. They tried to call him back.
George II
(67,782 posts)malaise
(269,186 posts)but how do you miss a car that size with the door open - this is serious
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I guess cuz it's so close up, you can really see the glazed expression, awkward leg placement, the hesitation like he's unsure of where the floor is....
I don't watch tv and avoid video of him so it's a nauseating shock to see the guy.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Now, I am 73, going on 60.
I had trouble finding my 15 year old BLACK Subaru Impreza in the grocery parking lot, even when I remembered to park 'next to the #3 post". Albeit it is a BIG BIG YUGGE parking lot.
So......
What did I do??
I bought a BRIGHT RED Honda HRV !!
Hell, I should be president...
thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)Nothing. No mental connection between "I see a limo" and "I'm going into the limo".
Just "I see a limo; it's an obstacle to go around."
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,382 posts)malaise
(269,186 posts)Damn!
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)ascending-- fine
descending is when I really have to be careful
malaise
(269,186 posts)ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)Other than revulsion for this man, I might be concerned. I hope for the worst. And laugh hysterically every time I watch this. To be fair, I've been suffering from a bit of hysteria these days.
malaise
(269,186 posts)I just want him out of office for the planet's sake
LudwigPastorius
(9,178 posts)it's hard to miss an eighteen foot, seven ton, black tank in front of you.
sinkingfeeling
(51,474 posts)malaise
(269,186 posts)playing golf
keithbvadu2
(36,933 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,197 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Was he walking to one in front of this SUV?
Really can't tell because it is a tight shot, but if my assumption is true then this is really nothing to make into an issue.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)At logic?
A wider shot would show if he was confused or if there were multiple SUVs.
Point being, RW assholes always take partial information and then make ignorant assumptions.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The one with the Presidential Seal painted on the door, was at the base of the damned stairs, with someone holding open the door. The dude has lost it.
Tactical Peek
(1,212 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)Nor would it make sense for him to be walking to some more distant "front car" because the president does not typically ride in the lead car of the procession.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)At that point, coming off the plane, they likely don't have a procession in place and if they did the vehicles would be closer together. I must admit I am especially careful of any anti-tRump memes not tied to his policies for one main reason, and that is the concern it is a set up. Since it was Fox News footage my immediate thought was set up.
In this case it seems to simply be what it is.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)He didn't even know what country he was in much of the time. He toasted the people of Bolivia while in Brazil. He couldn't remember the names of his own cabinet members. He couldn't recognize the only black person on his cabinet. He seemed dazed and confused most of the time when reporters asked him questions off script. He told an obviously fictional story about a Medal of Honor recipient to a group of real Medal of Honor recipients. His excuse about Iran Contra was he didn't know what was going on in his own administration, which was entirely believable.
csziggy
(34,138 posts)That when he interviewed him, Reagan had not idea what he was talking about. I heard this years ago in an interview on NPR.
The scary part is that was at least two years before Reagan's second term was up - how could he keep quiet and leave a senile old man in charge of the country? But here we are, back in the same situation.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)He could still read a script because that's what he did for decades. Meanwhile those behind the scenes could do whatever they wanted. W was much the same way, except instead of senility he was naturally stupid and had little charisma or ability.
area51
(11,922 posts)like in the Star Trek episode "Patterns of Force"?
Afromania
(2,771 posts)or close enough to it.
byronius
(7,401 posts)csziggy
(34,138 posts)One thing on W's behalf - he was raised in a political family and while he was too stupid to understand all the nuances, at least he could pretend well enough to play the part, similar to Reagan.
Dolt45 has none of those abilities, was always ignorant, and is now losing whatever mental capabilities he ever had.
I hope we survive his time in office.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Nancy got on the blacklist and Ronnie was the man to see about such things. Ronnie had some pull with the powers that be since he was ratting out his union brothers. After a little quid pro quo Nancy wound up pregnant so they had to get married to save both their careers. Word on the street was Nancy could make a man rip the leather off the arms of a Barcalounger, which explains why Sinatra hung around her for so long. It's not as if Ronnie was going to suspect anything even though everyone else knew what was going on.
UTUSN
(70,744 posts)mcar
(42,376 posts)Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)I think he'd know if his limo is right in front of him but who knows?
NYResister
(164 posts)There have been plenty of signs.
qanda
(10,422 posts)I hope he'll resign and get the help he needs.
heather blossom
(174 posts)He is mentally incompetent. Scary that he is going to the G20 and will be meeting with Putin.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)Catmusicfan
(816 posts)Tanuki
(14,922 posts)but after a couple of vague remarks he just left it sitting on the podium and wandered out of the room. Pence tried to flag him down, and the press sat there perplexed.
This is at least the third time something like this has happened in public recently. You are correct, malaise. All snark aside, this is quite terrifying.
Video of the exec order signing failure at this link:
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326796-trump-appears-to-forget-to-sign-executive-orders%3famp
mcar
(42,376 posts)This is 3 that we know about. One assumes there have been others.
And there is no sane person in the WH who could secretly run things. They are understaffed and incompetent.
Trump is he heavily Medicated or just so out of it he bypasses his limo and not salute a solder?
coming out of Air force one on the 4th of July!
He needs A legitimate Doctor or a Psychologist now to see if he is fit for office.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)and smell it. I guarantee he will not wander off.
Yes, I'm being incredibly flippant about possibly the most dangerous situation we could imagine. What the hell else can I do but be flippant?
George II
(67,782 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Any time a camera is on him, it's not a bad idea to just assume he is performing. Since the camera was zoomed in on him and at an odd angle. There are probably a few black SUV in that convoy. If the left picks up on this as a senior moment or a mental break. Another outlet will quickly release footage showing the line of SUV. He'll then point to the coverage as negative liberal media out to get him.
I also still think there is something mentally wrong with him. He performs for the cameras to cover for his decline. So when his staff sees some strange behavior they can excuse it as just him performing.
malaise
(269,186 posts)This is not some international airport. Sure there are other vehicles but they are at the exits/entrances. He completely missed the car that was parked at the foot of the fugging stairs. That is a problem.
Iggo
(47,571 posts)herding cats
(19,568 posts)The big vehicle with the presidential seals all over it at the end of the stairs wasn't clue enough?
I don't know, at this stage in the game I'm almost jaded enough to wonder if he's going for a mental health defense?
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)I'm the same age as he is and NIH still trusts me to review grant proposals.
herding cats
(19,568 posts)Some persons of his age do suffer from symptoms of dementia, which in no way means all, or even most do.
Personally, I've had family fall on all ends of the spectrum for early, traditional and late onset cognitive issues. It's a crapshoot if and when if the genetics aren't there you don't know what to expect. Which is where my family is at.
My sloppy point was, I suspect he's falsely playing it up for effect to lay groundwork for such a defense.
Again, I'm terribly sorry for not being more clear and causing any offense. It wasn't my intention, I swear.
enid602
(8,658 posts)We really should not make fun of Donnie Demento like this!
watoos
(7,142 posts)on the right wing web site that I post on. I also stole "25th the 45th" for my title. Hope it's ok?
The fuse is lit. I think appropriate for the 4th.
Tactical Peek
(1,212 posts). . . you used a punk to light it.
nini
(16,672 posts)Holy shit on a stick.
WHY can't someone spill the beans on this guy and save the Republic??? It boggles my mind he continues to be allowed to play President.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)watch them as JKF's limo is leaving Love Field. At :58 to 1:44 seconds
I wish they would have disobeyed their orders.
It was apparent to them that something was very wrong.
Do you know if there are any interviews of the agents explaining why they were ordered to move ???
I would like to read or watch them.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)until I watched this video. I don't know much more about it though. It is chilling because I don't think I have ever seen SS agents act in this fashion. Maybe it was different in the 60s before the assassination of JFK.
I found this CSPAN discussion with Clint Hill. I honestly have a difficult time believing him. Those are not the reactions of someone saying "See you, I am going to lunch."
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c3997797/secret-service-confusion-love-field-explained
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)I found their explanation on C-SPAN.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c3997797/secret-service-confusion-love-field-explained
BlueIndyBlue
(96 posts)For more on the reasoning, read the books written by Clint Hill who was the SS agent assigned to Jackie. I also read another account from a different agent. Evidently (from what I remember reading) the President didn't want the view of him and the First Lady to be obstructed so he had instructed the agents to not ride on the running boards. They started to anyway and he waved them off. Mr. Hill said in the book that that was one of his biggest regrets that he obeyed the order.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)I just posted the link to a clip of him being interviewed on C-SPAN.
BlueIndyBlue
(96 posts)It's a good read if you can navigate around his very obvious crush on Jackie. The guilt really ate him up and he blamed himself for many years. That must be a heavy burden to bear.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)dubyadiprecession
(5,722 posts)Oh well, we can always hope for his wandering from a heliport on a tall building.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)He just forgot he was supposed to be Presidentin'
Setsuna1972
(332 posts)Old Fart simply walked off before an interview was over, leaving what's his face the Israelis asshole in chief begging on camera LIVE for him to come back.
This is some serious shit.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)and he wasn't thirsty.
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)For orange cones and those cordons you get in airports so people are directed properly.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)She would wander around looking for her food even though her plate was right in front of her.
Scary.
riversedge
(70,307 posts)OUCH!
http://crooksandliars.com/
Confused Elderly Man Wanders Away From His Limousine, Remains In Control Of Nuclear Weapons
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Confused Elderly Man Wanders Away From His Limousine, Remains In Control Of Nuclear Weapons
Trump walks right past his presidential limousine,(h/t Tommy Christopher ijr.com)
By Red Painter
Link to tweet
gademocrat7
(10,672 posts)spanone
(135,884 posts)lovemydogs
(575 posts)and compared it with today
He sounds like a different person
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)Alea
(706 posts)Hate to defend the idiot but there is more than one limo and he may simply have been heading for one just off camera, although you'd think he'd go for the one nearest the air stairs. I just don't buy it that he was heading out into the wild blue tarmac yonder.
Like this scenario
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)I certainly can't rule out dementia, but is this moment in a tight shot necessarily revealing of a new condition? He's always seemed pretty goddamned dumb, and has never been a details guy.
lark
(23,158 posts)So sad that many Americans will not be able to afford medical care and will sicken and die because he's a criminal who's got early stage dementia and stole the highest office in the world with the help of good pal (so he thinks) Pootie.
Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)This is no big deal taken alone. In fact I could totally see myself doing something similar after getting off a plane. But this a pattern with Trump, I doubt he is all there.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...wouldn't this narrowly-shot clip make sense?
Seems to me that we might be missing a lot of context.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)that was parked just out of camera range.
malaise
(269,186 posts)An ice-cream truck in the airport parking area?
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)I heard, both orange and red. You know that kind
with frozen sweet colored ice on the outside
and ice cream in the middle. I must admit
it is a dazzling combination, invented apparently
by a distant cousin of Count Basie. No, it doesn't make
sense--unless he imagined it. He is a stupid man, but he did
imagine himself into being President. The ice cream truck
must have been a mirage that only he could see, wavering
in and out of the distance as the shimmering heat currents
rose willy-nilly from the lonely plain of the airport runway. It is
apparently still under investigation.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)DangerousRhythm
(2,916 posts)I'm not that great at it, but it looks like he's saying "Where are..."
I could be wrong. Please feel free to correct me! This is disturbing as all hell.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)...it is clear he still is able to feed himself--excessively!
JoJo
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)But I drive a tan minivan that is sometimes parked in a vast parking lot full of tan minivans. Not a ginormous limo with the Presidential seal on the doors and flags on the fender.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if he was heading towards one of the identical "decoy" vehicles that are part of the motorcade.
BeekeeperInVermont
(76 posts)but I've lost track of the number of times my husband just CANNOT see something right in front of him, and he's got no cognitive problems that we know of except for what I call 'Y-Chromosome Syndrome'. I once told him that every morning when he left for work, I'd wave good-bye, then go directly into the kitchen to move everything in the cabinets around into a new spot just so he couldn't find things. For a moment, he believed me. Yeah, like I have that much free time.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)He looks absolutely isolated and forlorn, seems to be talking to himself -- but when we pointed out when Reagan did stuff like that, we were called partisan alarmists.
rocktvity
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)SethH
(170 posts)got it!
benld74
(9,910 posts)Go dun dee stairz
All see vay dun
Stop next to limozeen
Turn rite
Walk away from limozeen!
He's doing it
He's doing it
Make him sound like chicken!
Shut up Boris! Eeez not your turn,
Now lets ok what you dun
Somebody eez helping him
Next time shut up when my turn
UCmeNdc
(9,601 posts)He seems senile。
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Notice the obvious.
Kinda like how he doesn't comprehend words like these:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.