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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:27 PM Jul 2017

Why on earth would Uday incriminate himself when he didn't have to? Wouldn't you have loved

to have been a fly in the room on Saturday night?

Why throw out the "looking for dirt on Hillary" ?

--- Divert attention from something worse? - people looking deeper into Prevezon ?

--- Worried there might have been tapes? Na...Trump already found out no TT tapes when he claimed there were and everyone immediately said "NO WAY"

--- But...Do they know who FISA warrants are issued for? Could there be one on Natalia Veselnitskaya and tapes?

--- It's actually, amazingly, a true story?

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Why on earth would Uday incriminate himself when he didn't have to? Wouldn't you have loved (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 OP
the mini series on this will be 25 episodes.....like a Dynasty series..... sunonmars Jul 2017 #1
Anything can happen, we are still in Act I.. Stuart G Jul 2017 #2
There must be something coming that is even worse. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #3
Speculation on Lawrence's show a bit ago The Blue Flower Jul 2017 #4
Yet these morons don't know its further dragged all of them into the shite sunonmars Jul 2017 #5
Wow. I never really thought about it - but actually felt a tad sorry for Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #6
do NOT feel sorry for these fucking grifters Skittles Jul 2017 #13
When they order the execution of the NY Yankees PCIntern Jul 2017 #27
:) Does Conald even like sports? Never heard him talk NY sports - like a decent NYer should :) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #31
He should be a Mets fan; GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #38
And it was noted that Junior was the least liked surrogate. lapucelle Jul 2017 #10
Lofty opinion of their ability to strategize, that. nt greyl Jul 2017 #11
Somebody mentioned on Lawrence's show that he was taking the hit for Jared since... kentuck Jul 2017 #7
Don still under the same legal jeopardy as Kushner. sunonmars Jul 2017 #8
Have you heard where Sr was that day? Hard to believe if he was in TT that he wouldn't have Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #9
He was in the Tower too! And tweeted about HRCs missing emails that day.... bettyellen Jul 2017 #18
think that was at 4:40p. But, you are right - hard to imagine him anywhere else without Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #19
Unlikely. Did the Trump admin leak the chapters of this story? greyl Jul 2017 #14
What are you saying is "unlikely" that DJT didn't know? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #20
It's unlikely that Jr is "taking the hit". greyl Jul 2017 #21
But if Jared was in the same meeting, meadowlander Jul 2017 #24
because like his dad, he is a FUCKING IDIOT Skittles Jul 2017 #12
+100 kentuck Jul 2017 #16
Oh wow...this just came out Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #17
American intelligence couldn't have recorded the conversation without a FISA warrant. However, pnwmom Jul 2017 #22
Does Trump know who every FISA warrant is issued on ? Taking this deal out of picture - hope Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #29
Wow if this is true YCHDT Jul 2017 #32
Yep. The simplest explanation is usually the best. nt ecstatic Jul 2017 #23
Lawrence (and the others at MSNBC) have been nailing his sorry ass. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #15
because, like his father and the rest of his clan bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #25
I don't see how Kushner could skate on this. avebury Jul 2017 #26
Been off DU all day - but did hear the interview of the Russian lawyer. I found it incredibly Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #30
Arrogance Thrill Jul 2017 #28
I'm running with Trumps Razor: The stupidest explanation is the likeliest. Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #33
hmmmmm. someone floated this tonight...."it is SO stupidly ridiculous it's almost Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2017 #34
Well, that works, too. I am willing to believe it. I can believe anything. Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #35
"My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency." VOX Jul 2017 #36
He Was Trying To Get Ahead.... Laxman Jul 2017 #37

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
4. Speculation on Lawrence's show a bit ago
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:35 PM
Jul 2017

The WH is putting the focus on junior to divert it from Kushner, who has greater legal vulnerability because of his position. IOW, throwing him under the bus.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Wow. I never really thought about it - but actually felt a tad sorry for
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:40 PM
Jul 2017

the "cheel-dren". Their father is a maniac. And it's so obvious Sr's shining star
is Ivanka - and by default Kushner. I imagine the boys have tried all their lives
to please him - to make him like them as much as he loves Ivanka.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
13. do NOT feel sorry for these fucking grifters
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jul 2017

yes their dad is a sociopath and a buffoon but the kids have long prospered using the family name and they PIMPED TO HIM INSTALLED INTO THE WHITE HOUSE

PCIntern

(25,550 posts)
27. When they order the execution of the NY Yankees
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:42 AM
Jul 2017

For losing a playoff series then we will know that the Saddam Hussein family has been reincarnated

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
7. Somebody mentioned on Lawrence's show that he was taking the hit for Jared since...
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jul 2017

...he is not subject to the same laws as Jared, with Jared considered part of his Cabinet.

If Don Jr takes the hit, then Jared would be less exposed?

If I were a bettin' man, I would bet a Franklin that Donald knows about it all?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. Have you heard where Sr was that day? Hard to believe if he was in TT that he wouldn't have
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jul 2017

sniffed out a pretty lawyer

greyl

(22,990 posts)
14. Unlikely. Did the Trump admin leak the chapters of this story?
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:54 PM
Jul 2017

Was Don Jr's half-confession part of a plan?

Doubt it.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
24. But if Jared was in the same meeting,
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 04:46 AM
Jul 2017

I'm not sure how this is Donnie Jr. "taking the hit" for him.

It seems like they're both sitting in the same pile of shit.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Oh wow...this just came out
Mon Jul 10, 2017, 10:59 PM
Jul 2017

Claude Taylor? @TrueFactsStated 6h6 hours ago

A source with knowledge of the investigation tells me that IC had "ears on" Russian lawyer. The meeting was recorded. Donald, Jr is toast.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
22. American intelligence couldn't have recorded the conversation without a FISA warrant. However,
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 03:51 AM
Jul 2017

there would be nothing to stop various allied foreign intelligence services from doing so.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Does Trump know who every FISA warrant is issued on ? Taking this deal out of picture - hope
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 06:43 PM
Jul 2017

not - know telling what he would do with that info

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
25. because, like his father and the rest of his clan
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 05:18 AM
Jul 2017

He is incapable of understanding what is wrong.

Like the kid who was too wealthy to understand about drinking and driving.

Noblesse oblige is an alien concept to these people.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
26. I don't see how Kushner could skate on this.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:18 AM
Jul 2017

I seriously doubt that Jr got Kushner and Manefort to attend the meeting without them knowing what is going on. This family is not one that knows how to keep their mouths shut. I imagine that as soon as Jr got the email he went running to the rest of the family. No way that Sr didn't know what was going on either. Non one in that family has ever been forced to face serious consequences for anything they have done in their lives. It is easy to believe that they assumed that they could play with the Russians and never get caught.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
30. Been off DU all day - but did hear the interview of the Russian lawyer. I found it incredibly
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jul 2017

suspicious that she made a point to say Kushner left early and Manafort was reading his phone the whole time. Kind of bolsters the idea that they are in cahoots and that Jr was to take fall. why else would she even throw that in? unless they manufactured a story

Brother Buzz

(36,437 posts)
33. I'm running with Trumps Razor: The stupidest explanation is the likeliest.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jul 2017

Junior released the emails thinking along the lines of: "If I'm guilty, why would I personally release emails that show I'm guilty? Nobody would be that stupid! Therefore, I must not really be guilty!"

Simple, no?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. hmmmmm. someone floated this tonight...."it is SO stupidly ridiculous it's almost
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jul 2017

like a plant." How does that change or not change your view??

Brother Buzz

(36,437 posts)
35. Well, that works, too. I am willing to believe it. I can believe anything.
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 10:40 PM
Jul 2017


"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people"

VOX

(22,976 posts)
36. "My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency."
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 11:03 PM
Jul 2017

That non-supportive, robotically unemotional statement from #45 sounds like they're throwing Junior to the wolves, perhaps in the hope that such a maneuver will take the heat off Senior. Offload the entire blame onto the shoulders of an "inexperienced son" whose only desire was "to help dad make America great again," or some such fabrication.

Wouldn't be the first time someone's taken the fall for Dad.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
37. He Was Trying To Get Ahead....
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jul 2017

of the story. It wasn't just that it was coming out in the Times. They knew Kushner was updating his security clearance forms and he was turning over the information about the meetings anyway. The knuckleheads thought they could control the narrative with their usual bull.

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