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Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 02:19 AM Jul 2017

Just now a jolting thought occurred to me.

What if all the insane revelations we are getting right now are planted stories to discredit the media like the one Rachel got?

Then suddenly an un-jolting thought occurred.

Trump Jr. admits the stories are true.


-- So if these are planted fake stories, they really messed up by accidentally reporting events that really occurred.

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Just now a jolting thought occurred to me. (Original Post) Kablooie Jul 2017 OP
Interesting and Karma on speed if true. n/t Chevy Jul 2017 #1
I've been marveling at how fast karma is being delivered ecstatic Jul 2017 #2
Good journalistic standards help prevent fake news Cicada Jul 2017 #3
Your post doesn't make sense PJMcK Jul 2017 #5
Rachel's story was stupid but I agree she follows journalistic standards Cicada Jul 2017 #6
They already admitted the meetings grantcart Jul 2017 #4

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
2. I've been marveling at how fast karma is being delivered
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 02:47 AM
Jul 2017

I've never seen it happen so fast, although most deplorables are still in the dark about what's coming.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
3. Good journalistic standards help prevent fake news
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 03:32 AM
Jul 2017

Rachel's heart is in the right place but she is not a rocket scientist, imo, and she has limited journalistic experience. Know your sources, their past honesty, their motivations to lie. Have multiple sources. Give the targets of bad news a chance to disagree before publication. Ask experts if the story sounds fishy. Don't cut corners in a rush to get a scoop.

Try to be like the Washington Post even though it costs money.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
5. Your post doesn't make sense
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:58 AM
Jul 2017

Your criticism of Rachel Maddow seems odd considering that she and her team were not fooled by the forged document they received. She received the document anonymously so your suggestion that she should know her sources and have multiple confirmations doesn't make sense. The document she received did not name a target, in fact, Ms. Maddow and MSNBC were the targets of a serious mis-information campaign. Her producers did speak with experts, and importantly, she handled the document as though it were legitimate protecting people from being exposed to it, (it's a crime to be aware of classified material if one is not authorized). Lastly, her team spent several days analyzing and researching the document to determine its veracity before they broadcast their report; they didn't cut corners or rush to publish.

Please explain your observations. Thanks in advance.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
6. Rachel's story was stupid but I agree she follows journalistic standards
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jul 2017

My main point was that we need not be too concerned about false stories being published if standard journalistic standards are followed - require 2 sources if they are anonymous et. My point about Rachel, bless her heart, being a bit slow is merely an aside. For instance her story about the Intercept getting the same story from an anonymous source that she got is stupid. She got documents with the same story two days after the Intercept publication. Why is that newsworthy? Anyone could read the Intercept story, make up a document, and send it to Rachel. Almost certainly that is what happened since a date on Rachel's document had the Intercept story time stamp to the second. If she had asked the Intercept about this she could have avoided being embarrassed.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. They already admitted the meetings
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 03:34 AM
Jul 2017

more likely they are shading the stories to try and lessen the blow on Jared.
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