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Natalia Veselnitskaya says it's possible Trump Jr. was "longing" for info on the DNC. (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2017 OP
She can't even nyet with a straight face, it's so ludicrous alcibiades_mystery Jul 2017 #1
The story changes overtime one of them talks... Sancho Jul 2017 #2
Why are so many Russians Scarsdale Jul 2017 #16
"They wanted it so badly". Manafort, Kushner, and Trump Jr. salivating oasis Jul 2017 #3
Family dynamic and rivalry no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #4
Yep... Zoonart Jul 2017 #5
Fredo, passed over for Michael DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #8
Apprentice, family style Justice Jul 2017 #11
Well, Don Sr. Scarsdale Jul 2017 #18
A guest on Chris Hayes last night knows her and predicted she would speak BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #6
Stick her before a prosecutor with her under oath and see if she lies then. Blue_true Jul 2017 #12
I don't think this was the first offer, but rather the final signoff on the collusion agreement. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #7
And the damaging Hillary leaks came a few weeks after this. n/t Chemisse Jul 2017 #9
oh man Cosmocat Jul 2017 #10
Flynn & Page may have laid groundwork; Flynn in Moscow Dec. 2015, Page in Mar. 2016. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #14
Plus, Russian Scarsdale Jul 2017 #19
Russian mafia are known to mislead intentionally. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #13
So many liars joeybee12 Jul 2017 #15
Maybe more of a problem is that she has him compromised. All it takes is a few wiggs Jul 2017 #17
Well, he did give us that longing, lonesome look. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 #20

oasis

(49,387 posts)
3. "They wanted it so badly". Manafort, Kushner, and Trump Jr. salivating
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:42 AM
Jul 2017

in hopes of getting information from America's adversary to undermine our democratic process.

What a pretty picture.

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
4. Family dynamic and rivalry
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 07:58 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Tue Jul 11, 2017, 08:34 AM - Edit history (1)

Junior was and still is vying to be MVP in his father's eyes. It isn't enough that he's running the Trump Organization with his brother.

Junior is in competition with his sister, Ivanka, and her husband, Jared. Their father relies on them, not Junior for advice. Their father thinks they're smarter than Junior. Their father believes they belong in the White House after he's done, not Junior.

Getting serious dirt on Hillary would have been a coup which would have been richly rewarded by Trump. Junior would have been his father's advisor, not Jared.

Desperation and sibling rivalry at their worst. Almost Shakespearean.

The only reason why Trump hasn't totally disposed of Junior altogether is what Junior knows. For example, if Trump were to take everything away from Junior (e.g., throw him out of the Trump Organization, out of the Will, won't take his phonecalls, shut off the money, blackball him from future employment elsewhere, etc.), you know Junior would become Mueller's new BFF.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
6. A guest on Chris Hayes last night knows her and predicted she would speak
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 08:17 AM
Jul 2017

and said she is brash and bold. Also she would lie. She sounds like the rest of them...guilty!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. Stick her before a prosecutor with her under oath and see if she lies then.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 09:10 AM
Jul 2017

You aren't in Russia ma'me.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
10. oh man
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 08:54 AM
Jul 2017

the tentacles are all over the place, you can't even keep track.

This episode does not even include Flynn, Page, etc.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
14. Flynn & Page may have laid groundwork; Flynn in Moscow Dec. 2015, Page in Mar. 2016.
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 09:26 AM
Jul 2017

Plus two weeks before mini-Trump met Veselnitskaya, Russian Ambassador Seslyak met Jeff Sessions at the RepubliCON CONvention.

Plus McCONnell knew the fix was in early and stood hard against confirming Garland Merrick.

wiggs

(7,813 posts)
17. Maybe more of a problem is that she has him compromised. All it takes is a few
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 10:08 AM
Jul 2017

words from her, true or not, and he's toast. That makes him blackmail-able. And not just by her, but by anyone with knowledge of the meeting, deal, conversation, exchange, etc. Compromised and untrustworthy.

Shouldn't be allowed within a mile of the WH.

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