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kpete

(71,996 posts) Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:10 PM Jul 2017

Two possibilities: 1. Trump's lawyer is lying 2. Trump Sr. was expected to attend the meeting

Two possibilities:

1. Trump's lawyer is lying

2. Trump Sr. was expected to attend the meeting

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Did Donald Trump’s lawyer accidentally make a huge confession about the meeting with the Russian lawyer?
Jay Sekulow suggested the Secret Service vetted the meeting, but Donald Trump Jr. was not being protected at that time.

Although the Secret Service is authorized to “make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence,” the Secret Service’s protection detail is to provide for the physical safety of protectees. It is unclear why Sekulow would think their job would include stopping them from “nefarious” activities or ensuring the candidate or his team does not violate campaign finance laws.

***Unless*** the Secret Service thought that the senior Trump or Vladimir Putin himself was going to be at or very near the meeting, Sekulow’s claim that the Secret Service “allowed” the Russians in is what raises the real questions.

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Two possibilities: 1. Trump's lawyer is lying 2. Trump Sr. was expected to attend the meeting (Original Post) kpete Jul 2017 OP

The other possibility is that trump did attend the meeting. I think I'll go with that one. brush Jul 2017 #1

+++++++++++ HAB911 Jul 2017 #13

This indicates it was held within Rump's close security area, Hortensis Jul 2017 #14

Still seems weird.... Sancho Jul 2017 #2

Does The Secret Service Keep A Log Of Everyone.... global1 Jul 2017 #3

It's a residential building. The desk staff would do sign ins and call residents or offices. hedda_foil Jul 2017 #7

No, as its lobby and basement hold commercial enterprises. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #10

Perhaps Trump barged into the meeting with little notice or warning given to the USSS. TheBlackAdder Jul 2017 #4

Howard Dean said the SAME thing yesterday (Possibility #2)... State the Obvious Jul 2017 #5

So if Trump did enter the meeting room, the SS would know ? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #17

Well, we know Trump Sr lies, we know Trump Jr lies, we know Sekulow lies, so many lies and Thinkingabout Jul 2017 #6

Good catch. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #8

He was listening in on a speakerphone. He's guilty as hell for his collusion with Russia. kimbutgar Jul 2017 #9

Exactly MFM008 Jul 2017 #11

Where was Mike Flynn ? nocalflea Jul 2017 #12

Or, #3, Trump Sr. did attend the meeting. Vinca Jul 2017 #15

More possibilities... thesquanderer Jul 2017 #16

There are many " posibilities " then there is reality Kathy M Jul 2017 #18

brush

(53,787 posts)

1. The other possibility is that trump did attend the meeting. I think I'll go with that one.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:15 PM

Jul 2017

HAB911

(8,904 posts)

13. +++++++++++

Reply to brush (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:26 AM

Jul 2017

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

14. This indicates it was held within Rump's close security area,

Reply to brush (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:40 AM

Jul 2017

revealing specifically, of course, that it was held where Rump could just stroll in if he wished.

The floors directly below Rump's suites, and anything above, would be kept empty, and the elevators that go to the close-security residence area would be part of it.

Sekulow just keeps making foolish mistake after mistake.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)

2. Still seems weird....

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:23 PM

Jul 2017

Wasn't this meeting the floor below tRump's?

Wouldn't the SS care who was coming in and out of the building?

Doesn't anyone follow the known Russians around?

No matter what Sekulow knows or reports, there has got to be more to this story. Yes, he's lying and slipped up. Simply from tRump's speeches it seems clear that tRump knew about "dirt on Hillary" and emails from the Russians, therefore he knew about this meeting and others.

global1

(25,252 posts)

3. Does The Secret Service Keep A Log Of Everyone....

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:38 PM

Jul 2017

that comes into the Trump Tower? Names, affiliation, who they are meeting with, time entered building, time left building, meeting location, etc.

Seems that would be the commonsense thing to do.

Would that log be available to the investigators to review?

Maybe reviewing it they could find other meetings with Russians.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)

7. It's a residential building. The desk staff would do sign ins and call residents or offices.

Reply to global1 (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:48 PM

Jul 2017

I'd assume Trump has a private gold plated elevator direct from his penthouse to his office and probably the Trump Organization floor, where little don and the princess have their offices. Eric too probably if they're in a good mood.

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)

10. No, as its lobby and basement hold commercial enterprises.

Reply to global1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:48 AM

Jul 2017

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)

4. Perhaps Trump barged into the meeting with little notice or warning given to the USSS.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:53 PM

Jul 2017

State the Obvious

(842 posts)

5. Howard Dean said the SAME thing yesterday (Possibility #2)...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:15 PM

Jul 2017

Secret Service might have been there to protect the President. Donald Jr. would not get the same treatment.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)

17. So if Trump did enter the meeting room, the SS would know ?

Reply to State the Obvious (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:25 AM

Jul 2017

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

6. Well, we know Trump Sr lies, we know Trump Jr lies, we know Sekulow lies, so many lies and

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:30 PM

Jul 2017

so little time to find all of them.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,004 posts)

8. Good catch. . . nt

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:16 AM

Jul 2017

kimbutgar

(21,160 posts)

9. He was listening in on a speakerphone. He's guilty as hell for his collusion with Russia.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 12:26 AM

Jul 2017

MFM008

(19,814 posts)

11. Exactly

Reply to kimbutgar (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 04:47 AM

Jul 2017

He knew. He knows. He did know.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)

12. Where was Mike Flynn ?

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:14 AM

Jul 2017

Advising Trump as far back as Feb, '16.

Can't wait for calls for the secret service agents to testify.
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Vinca

(50,278 posts)

15. Or, #3, Trump Sr. did attend the meeting.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:40 AM

Jul 2017

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)

16. More possibilities...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:13 AM

Jul 2017

...Trump's lawyer is a moron, who doesn't know what he's talking about

...Trump's lawyer is throwing anything out there, no matter how ridiculous, to deflect and/or to see if anything sticks (PR-wise)

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)

18. There are many " posibilities " then there is reality

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:46 AM

Jul 2017

Come on everyone believes Trump and Co are naive ? Not by a long shot ........

There is more to this , we shall find out in time ........ try to keep an open mind

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