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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm sorry, but I don't see how this Russia stuff is a thing.
This is a great one to toss back at the Trumpologists. I can't take credit for it -- found as a reply to a FB post.
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I must admit that its hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia; except for the Reality Leigh Winner thing, and the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing. And the Tillerson thing. And the Sessions thing. And the Kushner thing. And the Carter Page thing. And the Roger Stone thing. And the Felix Sater thing. And the Boris Ephsteyn thing. And the Rosneft thing. And the Gazprom thing. And the Sergey Gorkov banker thing. And the Azerbajain thing. And the I love Putin thing. And the Donald Trump, Jr. thing. And the Sergey Kislyak thing. And the Russian Affiliated Interests thing. And the Russian Business Interests thing. And the Emoluments Clause thing. And the Alex Schnaider thing. And the hack of the DNC thing. And the Guccifer 2.0 thing. And the Mike Pence I dont know anything thing. And the Russians mysteriously dying thing. And Trumps public request to Russia to hack Hillarys email thing. And the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing. And the Russian fertilizer kings plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing. And the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing. And the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing. And the Cyprus bank thing. And Trump not releasing his tax returns thing. And the Republican Partys rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing. And the election hacking thing. And the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing. And the Steele Dossier thing. And the Leninist Bannon thing. And the Sally Yates cant testify thing. And the intelligence communitys investigative reports thing. And the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all fake news thing. And the Spicers Russian Dressing nothings wrong thing. And the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing. And the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing. And the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord suddenly in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing. And the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump University scandal appointed to head the investigation thing. And the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing. And the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing. And the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing. And the Agent M16 following the money thing. And now the Trump team knew about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing. And the Corey Lewendowski thing. And the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against Trump to a state level Schneiderman thing. And the Betsy Devos' brother thing. And the Sebastian Gorka thing. And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing. And the Pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing. And the Pence and Manafort connection thing. And the seven Allies coming forward with audio where Trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing. And the Carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing. And the Trump wanted to veto Sally Yates' testimony thing. And the Trump fired Comey to cover up the Russian collusion thing. And now the Jared Kushner secret phone line with Russia thing. So yeah, theres probably nothing there!
--Elpatron Garcia T
susanna
(5,231 posts)ansible
(1,718 posts)There's no point trying to reason with them, they just simply don't care whether or not Trump is a russian puppet.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Owens
(197 posts)The Trumpers would be raising their pitchforks and chanting "Lock her up!"
MFM008
(19,816 posts)Like the global warming thing.....
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)the original, OP could have broken this up.
So, as the kids say, "TL, DR."
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)The purpose of the formatting seems to fly over a few heads, though.
(I hope the author updates this. A lot has happened in the past few months.)
Swagman
(1,934 posts)ever gave Russia a thought in their lives until The Donald brought them up. And as soon as they realised and Trump confirmed that Putin was an authoritarian leader like Trump would like to be, they became instant fans of Vlad.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)into a few paragraphs. It is great, but unreadable as it is.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Add some killer graphics and bullet points while you're at it. Oh and no more than 140 characters, please.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)and you answered with snark.
Yes, I understand what the OP is doing. It is still unreadable. Take your snark elsewhere. I won't be reading it, no matter how it is formatted.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)I'm a newspaper editor. Readability is everything.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Your pretense to relevance is given all the consideration it in fact, warrants.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)That is without question the most pretentious attempt at an insult I have ever encountered. Lighten up you blowhard.
I must admit that its hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia; except for the Reality Leigh Winner thing, and the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing.
And the Tillerson thing.
And the Sessions thing.
And the Kushner thing.
And the Carter Page thing.
And the Roger Stone thing.
And the Felix Sater thing.
And the Boris Ephsteyn thing.
And the Rosneft thing.
And the Gazprom thing.
And the Sergey Gorkov banker thing.
And the Azerbajain thing.
And the I love Putin thing.
And the Donald Trump, Jr. thing.
And the Sergey Kislyak thing.
And the Russian Affiliated Interests thing.
And the Russian Business Interests thing.
And the Emoluments Clause thing.
And the Alex Schnaider thing.
And the hack of the DNC thing.
And the Guccifer 2.0 thing.
And the Mike Pence I dont know anything thing.
And the Russians mysteriously dying thing.
And Trumps public request to Russia to hack Hillarys email thing.
And the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing.
And the Russian fertilizer kings plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing.
And the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing.
And the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing.
And the Cyprus bank thing.
And Trump not releasing his tax returns thing.
And the Republican Partys rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing.
And the election hacking thing.
And the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing.
And the Steele Dossier thing.
And the Leninist Bannon thing.
And the Sally Yates cant testify thing.
And the intelligence communitys investigative reports thing.
And the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all fake news thing.
And the Spicers Russian Dressing nothings wrong thing.
And the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing.
And the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing.
And the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord suddenly in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing.
And the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump University scandal appointed to head the investigation thing.
And the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing.
And the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing.
And the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing.
And the Agent M16 following the money thing.
And now the Trump team knew about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing.
And the Corey Lewendowski thing.
And the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against Trump to a state level Schneiderman thing. And the Betsy Devos' brother thing.
And the Sebastian Gorka thing.
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing.
And the Pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing.
And the Pence and Manafort connection thing.
And the seven Allies coming forward with audio where Trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing.
And the Carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing.
And the Trump wanted to veto Sally Yates' testimony thing.
And the Trump fired Comey to cover up the Russian collusion thing.
And now the Jared Kushner secret phone line with Russia thing.
So yeah, theres probably nothing there!
I did not mean this in an unkind way.
The way it looks now, I may print it.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)about having a hard time reading it, though. There is usually a section in the lower middle part of big paragraphs that my brain wants to skip. Thank goodness it isn't about brain surgery.
calimary
(81,313 posts)The MASSIVELY cool thing about this is the length.
You break that OP down by sentence, and you get this looooooooooooooonnnnnggg list of shit.
Just almost an embarrassingly long list of shit.
Heck, even if you don't stop to read every line, just the look of the very length of this list. You can't even get it onto a single screen. You have to scroll down. Just the overall visual is a slam-dunk.
To the trump-lovers, political AND civilian: "Aaaaannnnnd you're okay with this?"
I love how Chris Matthews seems to have taken it upon himself as kind of a quest - to push the meme: "what if this were Hillary? What if Chelsea had gone to that meeting with Russian government operatives, because she was looking for dirt on her mom's opponent, with her husband (Hillary's son-in-law) who's a principal in the Hillary Clinton White House?" As Matthews complained: Ask that 29 percent that the polls all characterize as solid-for-trump-no-matter-what, if they'd be okay "if the shoe were on the other political foot", as he put it. Chris Matthews seems to have taken a shine to this subject. "The Chelsea Clinton Test," I think is what he called it.
I'm a little bit amazed that Matthews would do that. But I'm freakin' THRILLED that he is! I think EVERY reporter or anchor should wonder aloud about that question. That specific messaging ought to start flowing out of the mouths of EVERYONE with more than half a brain.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)He's on at a time when I cannot easily watch, so I had no idea how well the early evening crew was doing. I'm glad he throws that out there, even though Chelsea is actually qualified to work in government in some capacity.
Atman
(31,464 posts)A paragraph indicates the beginning of a new thought or idea, or the beginning of a quote in printed dialog. I think it's pretty clear what the original author was trying to do here. It's all one long continuous run-on of scandal and lies out of Trump. After which lie would you insert a break to indicate a new thought or idea?
par·a·graph
ˈperəˌɡraf/
noun
1. a distinct section of a piece of writing, usually dealing with a single theme and indicated by a new line, indentation, or numbering.
Demit
(11,238 posts)and thus uncomfortable for the eye to follow.
Actually your post is the pedantic one, by insisting that a paragraph break can only be for a "new thought or idea." Typographers know that formatting is also about avoiding eyestrain. If the writer had broken up his long list by using paragraph breaks with an ellipsis at the end of each graf, that would have communicated the purpose of the list being one continuous idea.
Denzil_DC
(7,242 posts)People will be reading on various devices and sizes of screen, so shorter paragraphs help the reader to keep tabs on where they are in the text as they scroll through it. They also make it more digestible.
I didn't end up reading the text in the OP as it's an overwhelmingly dense block (and I read for a living, so it's nothing to do with attention span).
Demit
(11,238 posts)I see it a lot. The alternative is to compose your very long post in a word processing program, where you can do hard returns, then do a copy/paste into FB.
kag
(4,079 posts)I am an incorrigible formatting-, punctuation-, grammar-, spelling-, and word-choice-snob. But since I know this about myself, and I also know that I am just as prone to mistakes as the next guy/girl, I try to leave stuff like this alone.
Having said that...this post was UNreadable. So thanks for saying what I wanted to.
BTW, FB soft-return on a mac is shift+return--an extremely helpful key combination.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Same thing I tell reporters with whom I work.
tblue37
(65,403 posts)effect by formatting the way Nance Greggs does her OPs. That would effectively pound home the point while making the text readable.
ancianita
(36,074 posts)Doesn't matter if it's all one topic. Even writers who write a long-ass paragraph under a topic sentence break their paragraphs up.
The long continuous idea loses its power after the tenth "thing."
Dictionary definitions do nothing to prescribe writing style and readability. How narrow of you.
If you care that the rest be significant to readers, perhaps researched by readers new to political events, you might respect the advice muriel gave you.
Caring about content presentation is caring about the audience.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)incidents/examples/etc.
See Post #51. :-P
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Who is Michael Caputo and What Can He Tell Us?
The Russian connections keep piling up
by Martin Longman May 21, 2017 3:56 PM
At his LinkedIn page, Caputo lists himself as a Senior Advisor to the Trump campaign from April 2016 to June 2016. He also lists himself as President of The Florence Group from November 1994 to November 1999, an organization that he says played a pivotal role in electing Boris Yeltsin to his second term as President of the Russian Federation.
Back on October 23rd, 2012, before Caputo knew that hed one day serve on Donald Trumps presidential campaign or be called to testify about collusion with the Russians, he tweeted about visiting Lefortovo Prison during his time working for the Kremlin:
It appears that he worked for the Kremlin during the presidency of Boris Yeltsin and returned home to the United States around the time that Vladimir Putin took over. So, we need to keep that in mind. Yet, how many Americans have worked for the Kremlin and then gone on to be senior advisors to an American presidential candidate from one of our two major parties.......the New York Times reveals that Caputo worked for Gazprom Media, a Russian conglomerate that supported President Vladimir V. Putin in the early 2000s.
Caputos LinkedIn page says that he worked at Allegiance Telecom as a vice-president from June 2001 to June 2003. It doesnt list any other employment for him until he shows up as the publisher of PoliticsNY.net in January of 2013. He apparently spent all the intervening time as the president of his own public relations firm, aptly named Caputo Public Relations with clients like Sergios Restaurants, Princeton Strategic Communications, the Job Creators Network, Carl Paladino for Governor, and Bloc Lytvyn. What is Bloc Lytvyn, you ask? Lets see. It must have something to do with this guy Volodymyr Lytvyn who received the Russian Order of Friendship Award back in 2011. Or, if you prefer, you can go here to see a picture of Lytvyn shaking hands with Vladimir Putin in 2002. There are Ukrainian politicians, and then there are Ukrainian politicians who win Russian friendship awards. Michael Caputo worked on behalf of the latter.
http://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/05/21/who-is-michael-caputo-and-what-can-he-tell-us/
Lots more
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Holy republicrud, I missed that one. Real? Or hyperbole?
Link? Or sink?
teach1st
(5,935 posts)Jared Kushner and Russias ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trumps transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Thanks for the link
oasis
(49,389 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)with my crush on William Holden! Take it back!
oasis
(49,389 posts)How's that?
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Yea, right....
IronLionZion
(45,452 posts)is what Trumpsters have said. Some have openly stated they don't care if the Trumps colluded with Russia to win. They're glad he is a winner who does what it takes to win and they are looking forward to lots of new coal and manufacturing jobs and building the wall to throw out the millions of illegals who have suspiciously realistic looking fake documents and American accents after stealing jobs away from real Americans.
That was a beautiful long list of things they would like to pretend are nothing. Thanks for sharing.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)TygrBright
(20,761 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)I must admit that its hard for me to see any U.S. ties to Russia; except for the Reality Leigh Winner thing, and the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing.
And the Tillerson thing.
And the Sessions thing.
And the Kushner thing.
And the Carter Page thing.
And the Roger Stone thing.
And the Felix Sater thing.
And the Boris Ephsteyn thing.
And the Rosneft thing. And the Gazprom thing.
And the Sergey Gorkov banker thing.
And the Azerbajain thing.
And the I love Putin thing.
And the Donald Trump, Jr. thing. And the Sergey Kislyak thing.
And the Russian Affiliated Interests thing. And the Russian Business Interests thing.
And the Emoluments Clause thing.
And the Alex Schnaider thing.
And the hack of the DNC thing. And the Guccifer 2.0 thing.
And the Mike Pence I dont know anything thing.
And the Russians mysteriously dying thing. And Trumps public request to Russia to hack Hillarys email thing.
And the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing. And the Russian fertilizer kings plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing.
And the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing. And the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing.
And the Cyprus bank thing.
And Trump not releasing his tax returns thing.
And the Republican Partys rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing.
And the election hacking thing.
And the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing.
And the Steele Dossier thing.
And the Leninist Bannon thing.
And the Sally Yates cant testify thing. And the intelligence communitys investigative reports thing.
And the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all fake news thing.
And the Spicers Russian Dressing nothings wrong thing.
And the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing. And the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing.
And the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord suddenly in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing.
And the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump University scandal appointed to head the investigation thing.
And the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing.
And the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing.
And the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing.
And the Agent M16 following the money thing.
And now the Trump team knew about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing.
And the Corey Lewendowski thing.
And the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against Trump to a state level Schneiderman thing.
And the Betsy Devos' brother thing.
And the Sebastian Gorka thing. And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing.
And the Pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing.
And the Pence and Manafort connection thing.
And the seven Allies coming forward with audio where Trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing.
And the Carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing.
And the Trump wanted to veto Sally Yates' testimony thing.
And the Trump fired Comey to cover up the Russian collusion thing.
And now the Jared Kushner secret phone line with Russia thing. So yeah, theres probably nothing there!
--Elpatron Garcia T
ancianita
(36,074 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)How often do you have to update such a list? Daily, hourly or minute to minute?
#RealNewsFakePresident
Denzil_DC
(7,242 posts)Now I actually read it, with comfort.
And if anything, it's more impactful formatted like that.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)digest and savor details, because I assuredly can, but because with a list such as yours, one sees readily the AMOUNT of corruption and treason.
Atman
(31,464 posts)niyad
(113,336 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)And please, don't forget the all important Deutsche Bank thing.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Interesting analysis of that just posted yesterday at dKos - https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/16/1681192/-Could-Alfa-Bank-Servers-Be-the-Link-Between-Trump-Campaign-and-Kremlin
MiddleClass
(888 posts)[link:|
when I read the original post, I thought the ongoing, never-ending paragraph was on purpose.
4 effect, it had the effect on me. Anyway.
The never-ending story
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)kyburbonkid
(251 posts)"Hay Rocky... Watch me pull a russian thing out of a hat." Bullwinkle pulls out this list of things and says "umm bigger than I thought"
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)2 sides to everything bullshit. This is why so many Americans got conned by Trump. Cable news is useless! Print media is doing an awesome job, of course.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)fallout87
(819 posts)help us pickup seats on 2018? Im not so sure. The deplorable base isn't bothered by it. There's been so many controversies that they literally tune everything out. And we need to flip back some of those seats in R districts.
Atman
(31,464 posts)That's worse than any treason a white so-called billionaire could commit.