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VermontKevin

(1,473 posts) Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:51 PM Jul 2017

Russia rejects any US conditions for return of seized compounds

Moscow (CNN)Russia has described any possible conditions set by Washington to return two of the country's diplomatic compounds in the US that were closed down late last year as "unacceptable."

"We have repeatedly said that we think any conditions are unacceptable. We think that the diplomatic property must be returned without any conditions and talks," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told CNN Monday.

"What is happening is -- de facto and de jure -- a violation of international law," he said. "Contacts are happening between the foreign policy departments. Kremlin, as it is, does not really participate but as you know this issue was raised by President [Vladimir] Putin during his G20 meeting with President Trump in a quite straightforward manner."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/17/politics/russia-us-diplomatic-compounds/index.html?sr=twCNN071717russia-us-diplomatic-compounds0223PMVODtop

Very crafty of President Obama to set this up. Russians are demanding a total cave. What will Trump do?

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Russia rejects any US conditions for return of seized compounds (Original Post) VermontKevin Jul 2017 OP

Then go fuck yourselves. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #1

Now they dictate what happens on American soil? Squinch Jul 2017 #2

They own the president. Demtexan Jul 2017 #3

Yes. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #5

Under international diplomatic law it is not American soil. former9thward Jul 2017 #9

Yes, but when the diplomats are tossed out due to wrongdoing, I would imagine the property Squinch Jul 2017 #12

We are at war with the Russians? former9thward Jul 2017 #15

I would say that their actions amounted to a coup attempt. So I think there's a case to be made. Squinch Jul 2017 #16

I would assume you think we should refuse to allow former9thward Jul 2017 #20

You'll assume whatever your fevered mind conjures up, but I never said anything remotely Squinch Jul 2017 #27

In short order, Space X will do it. About a year, IIRC. Fuck Russia. kysrsoze Jul 2017 #29

That is not what NASA says former9thward Jul 2017 #30

Look what they've done to the state dept already, president Putin wants his houses back uponit7771 Jul 2017 #26

I've said it before....torch the buildings and grounds. Moostache Jul 2017 #4

What will you say when they torch ours? former9thward Jul 2017 #10

Would it be before or after we staged a silent coup against their government? Squinch Jul 2017 #13

Where was all this outrage when the U.S. has attempted to influence former9thward Jul 2017 #17

So you think there should be no response to the Russian hacking of the US election? Squinch Jul 2017 #18

If we are confident that it was the Russian government former9thward Jul 2017 #21

Gosh. Such outrage. Squinch Jul 2017 #25

What were the proposed conditions? Gothmog Jul 2017 #6

Still waiting for the administration to tell us. VermontKevin Jul 2017 #8

I wonder what is inside the compounds that they want so bad? HipChick Jul 2017 #7

The whole White House is compromised, why would they have, to meet any conditions MiddleClass Jul 2017 #11

well let's see what mr moscow does..... spanone Jul 2017 #14

Notice that they didn't demand anything of Obama NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #19

Two words with Trump, also: "LOVE YOU." WinkyDink Jul 2017 #23

Gee, maybe shooting down a passenger plane is "a violation of international law." WinkyDink Jul 2017 #22

Bite Me, Vlad Quanta Jul 2017 #24

Comrade Putin owns his bitch. procon Jul 2017 #28

onecaliberal

(32,862 posts)

1. Then go fuck yourselves.

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:55 PM

Jul 2017

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

2. Now they dictate what happens on American soil?

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 06:58 PM

Jul 2017

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)

3. They own the president.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:01 PM

Jul 2017

They think they can.

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)

5. Yes.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:06 PM

Jul 2017

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

9. Under international diplomatic law it is not American soil.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:19 PM

Jul 2017

Just as American diplomatic property in Russia is not Russian soil. The U.S. has diplomatic compounds in Russia (used for the same purposes the Russians use their's here) which could be closed by the Russians. Maybe both countries should close shop.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

12. Yes, but when the diplomats are tossed out due to wrongdoing, I would imagine the property

Reply to former9thward (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:53 PM

Jul 2017

reverts to American ownership. I doubt Nazi Germany was allowed to own real estate in NYC during WW2, right?

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

15. We are at war with the Russians?

Reply to Squinch (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:00 PM

Jul 2017

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

16. I would say that their actions amounted to a coup attempt. So I think there's a case to be made.

Reply to former9thward (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:02 PM

Jul 2017

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

20. I would assume you think we should refuse to allow

Reply to Squinch (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:07 PM

Jul 2017

them to carry our astronauts into space. We should not hitchhike with the enemy. Maybe the Chinese will take us.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

27. You'll assume whatever your fevered mind conjures up, but I never said anything remotely

Reply to former9thward (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:50 PM

Jul 2017

connected to astronauts in space.

What is this new technique you all are using, where someone says "A" and then you all say, "so of course that means you think "Z." It's very ham handed and ridiculous.

kysrsoze

(6,022 posts)

29. In short order, Space X will do it. About a year, IIRC. Fuck Russia.

Reply to former9thward (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:00 PM

Jul 2017

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

30. That is not what NASA says

Reply to kysrsoze (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:10 PM

Jul 2017

but an anonymous internet poster I'm sure knows better ...

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

26. Look what they've done to the state dept already, president Putin wants his houses back

Reply to Squinch (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:47 PM

Jul 2017

Moostache

(9,895 posts)

4. I've said it before....torch the buildings and grounds.

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:04 PM

Jul 2017

Fuck you Vladimir...just because our pussy-grabbing fake President lacks the set to tell you to fuck off does not mean that all Americans are down for Russian-rule so overtly...c'mon over for the bonfire though, first round of S'mores on the burning Russian buildings are on me pal!

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

10. What will you say when they torch ours?

Reply to Moostache (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:19 PM

Jul 2017

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

13. Would it be before or after we staged a silent coup against their government?

Reply to former9thward (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:54 PM

Jul 2017

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

17. Where was all this outrage when the U.S. has attempted to influence

Reply to Squinch (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:04 PM

Jul 2017

elections all over the world? Sometimes with money, sometimes with "extra legal" methods, sometimes with troops. I guess I missed it. But that still does not answer the question. If we torch their's what are you going to say when they torch ours?

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

18. So you think there should be no response to the Russian hacking of the US election?

Reply to former9thward (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:05 PM

Jul 2017

And, pray, what outrage might that be?

former9thward

(32,019 posts)

21. If we are confident that it was the Russian government

Reply to Squinch (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:09 PM

Jul 2017

then we should retaliate with our own cyber warfare to aid anti-Putin forces.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

25. Gosh. Such outrage.

Reply to former9thward (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:46 PM

Jul 2017

Gothmog

(145,293 posts)

6. What were the proposed conditions?

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:07 PM

Jul 2017

The article is silent on what conditions were asked for by the trumpies

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)

8. Still waiting for the administration to tell us.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:16 PM

Jul 2017

HipChick

(25,485 posts)

7. I wonder what is inside the compounds that they want so bad?

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:08 PM

Jul 2017

MiddleClass

(888 posts)

11. The whole White House is compromised, why would they have, to meet any conditions

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:33 PM

Jul 2017

Just tell Don the con to hand them over and he will,

that said, we should demand impeachment if it does, when it's not done. We have an election message,

simply Protect America

spanone

(135,844 posts)

14. well let's see what mr moscow does.....

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:54 PM

Jul 2017

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)

19. Notice that they didn't demand anything of Obama

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:07 PM

Jul 2017

perhaps because they knew the answer they'd get. Two words, and the second one is "you."

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)

23. Two words with Trump, also: "LOVE YOU."

Reply to NastyRiffraff (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:24 PM

Jul 2017

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)

22. Gee, maybe shooting down a passenger plane is "a violation of international law."

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:24 PM

Jul 2017

Quanta

(195 posts)

24. Bite Me, Vlad

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:37 PM

Jul 2017

You ain't gettin' shit. And if you DO, your boy is going down double time. Take THAT back to your masters, Russkis! Fucking assholes even getting all up in my personal webspace...FUCK YOU RUSSIA. Cash us ousside, howboudat?!?!

procon

(15,805 posts)

28. Comrade Putin owns his bitch.

Reply to VermontKevin (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:58 PM

Jul 2017

Trump will hand over the keys and get nothing in return because he's such a great deal maker.

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