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Rohrabacher asks about ancient civilizations on Mars. LOL. (Original Post) L. Coyote Jul 2017 OP
Maybe the mother ship will come to take him back The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #1
I disagree, the mother ship does not want to add this mess to its cargo.. Stuart G Jul 2017 #71
Hark! Do I hear the song of my people? BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #75
Rohrbacher: There was an acient Martian civilization. The reason they died out: Obama ProudLib72 Jul 2017 #2
Coming next: Obama is a Martian. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #4
How do they keep a straight face??. pangaia Jul 2017 #3
I know. At least he first explains planetary time scale isn't in 1000s of years. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #11
Game? This guy is a nutcase, bring the straight jacket..straightaway RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2017 #18
Going for the insanity defense when the indictments come out on Russia? rufus dog Jul 2017 #5
I wonder HurricaneWarning Jul 2017 #61
The republican brain should qualify as one of those "outrageous experiments" on the science channel. Elwood P Dowd Jul 2017 #6
K & R for expsoure. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #7
There some people you know who think... lunasun Jul 2017 #8
Rohrabacher is such an ass. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #9
I think the essential thing here is that Rohrabacher PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #10
It prompts the question: Why? WHY stars and galaxies? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #15
Not really. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #17
How about this one: If the Universe is expanding, into what does it expand? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #42
We don't say no life exists on Mars, we say we have no evidence. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #45
like, science LOL snooper2 Jul 2017 #48
That's called a nonsense question. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #50
Right. Best analogy for an expanding universe VWolf Jul 2017 #53
I've heard it compared to rubber, but yes - that's a good analogy. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #58
Dinosaurs evolved from PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #54
Hence, humanity's continuing drive and determination to find that reason. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #56
Humanity is doing no such thing. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #57
Dazzle me with science, but you might want to adjust your numbers to fit your sentences GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #23
Not sure I see what you're pointing to. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #55
300,000,000 GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #65
Ooops. Thank you for the correction! PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #66
Nit To Pick ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #37
"300,000,000 (three hundred billion)" - no it is 300 million pangaia Jul 2017 #40
The image NASA doesn't want you to see!: beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #12
He thought Mars Attacks was a documentary grantcart Jul 2017 #19
Ack ack! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #20
Or Total Recall....just because it had Ahnold in it underpants Jul 2017 #32
he must have access to... dhill926 Jul 2017 #13
He is for legal weed, medically and recreationally... GReedDiamond Jul 2017 #22
But wait! 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #14
" They should be glad breathing doesn't require informed decision making. " pangaia Jul 2017 #41
He make be a repug flamingdem Jul 2017 #16
Alien life forms, if you're listening, GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #21
Alien life forms, if you're listening, L. Coyote Jul 2017 #46
That too! GallopingGhost Jul 2017 #63
He's my rep and I'll cry if I want to. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2017 #24
He should be asking Richard C. Hoagland yuiyoshida Jul 2017 #25
I'm surprised he's not referred to as Comrade Rohrbacher. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #26
Rohrabacher asks about ancient civilizations on Mars. LOL Mesee Jul 2017 #27
About that face...NASA says otherwise JHB Jul 2017 #31
Erich von Daniken took $7 million tyo the bank on an idiotic paperback L. Coyote Jul 2017 #47
Well, it WOULD explain Trump Doug the Dem Jul 2017 #28
Putin put him up to it get the red out Jul 2017 #29
Remember, this guy gets re-elected because our candidates suck Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2017 #30
Isn't Rohrabacher in the pocket of the Russians? Renew Deal Jul 2017 #36
new story on the Daily Beast on what prompted that comment salin Jul 2017 #39
Read the entire thing. That's shameful Renew Deal Jul 2017 #43
esp - he was warned previously. salin Jul 2017 #44
Duh. They came from the Sun. dalton99a Jul 2017 #33
His Chief of Staff, when asked for comment, stated: hatrack Jul 2017 #34
Somebody had to ask Renew Deal Jul 2017 #35
Dana, sounds like you have been listening salin Jul 2017 #38
Wonder Woman totally took out Mars earlier this summer. Achilleaze Jul 2017 #49
Rohrabacher's an ass, but it's a question worth asking. RandySF Jul 2017 #51
Dana Rohrabacher seems ideally qualified to be the next president. Doodley Jul 2017 #52
Just Ask Uncle Vlad!! blue-wave Jul 2017 #59
Makes perfect sense! klook Jul 2017 #60
Right. Didn't they build the canals Dan Quayle talked about? yellowcanine Jul 2017 #62
To grow potatoe right? L. Coyote Jul 2017 #64
Play the Republican game. Just say yes so NASA gets funded! tecelote Jul 2017 #67
That's the face of Jesus on Mars, don't you know. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #69
To have to sit and be questioned by this stupid fuck. Turbineguy Jul 2017 #68
Take it away, Mr. Bowie shenmue Jul 2017 #70
Revisiting this thread because I need a laugh JHan Jul 2017 #72
And Russia wants him to xxqqqzme Jul 2017 #73
How has Trump not yet appointed him head of NASA or the National Science Foundation? MrPurple Jul 2017 #74
I'm less concerned with ancient Martian civilization... dchill Jul 2017 #76
I always figured he was Hieronymus Jul 2017 #77
Doesn't the house have rules about loonballs talking? mdbl Jul 2017 #78

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
71. I disagree, the mother ship does not want to add this mess to its cargo..
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:11 AM
Jul 2017

This ship has other ports of call, and cannot stop by to pick up this thing.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
75. Hark! Do I hear the song of my people?
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jul 2017








(Right, yes, sorry about that...I did get a little obsessed there. Couldn't stop myself. )

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. Rohrbacher: There was an acient Martian civilization. The reason they died out: Obama
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:26 AM
Jul 2017

Yes congressman, we have found whole cities. tRump and Pootie have already colluded twice in one of those buildings.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
4. Coming next: Obama is a Martian.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:32 AM
Jul 2017
First, get people to believe there are Martians, then it's all downhill ....

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
11. I know. At least he first explains planetary time scale isn't in 1000s of years.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:54 AM
Jul 2017

I would have busted out laughing in his face. The internet is sure having fun with this.

"Dear NASA: can you please send Rohrabacher to Mars to look for evidence? 'k thx "

"Dana Rohrabacher Asks NASA: Was Mars A Good Place To Raise A Kid?"


RestoreAmerica2020

(3,438 posts)
18. Game? This guy is a nutcase, bring the straight jacket..straightaway
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:20 AM
Jul 2017

Last edited Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)

If NASA representative didn't respond in kind to idiotic query, say...robackkker your a F***ng idiot and you're a perfect example of alien life on earth, perhaps satan himself...however, if NASA person didn't respond in kind, he is complicit in said insanity. The mention of child sex slaves even in jest, is sick and criminal ...how very untoward. P.s. has anyone reported this nutcase to child protective services? Because joking or not its not normal-- he is one loco mal hombre! (Crazy badman) wueei cocoman! (a evil-sinister monster hiding under the bed.)

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
6. The republican brain should qualify as one of those "outrageous experiments" on the science channel.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:38 AM
Jul 2017

Rohrabacher would make a good guest for some comedy relief.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
10. I think the essential thing here is that Rohrabacher
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 12:51 AM
Jul 2017

does not understand the difference between thousands of years and billions of years. Which is probably typical of those who think such nonsense as the Earth is only 6,000 years or so old.

In a similar way, most people haven't a clue just how vast interstellar distances are, let alone inter galactic distances.

Here's the best way to explain those vast distances: Our galaxy, Milky Way, has about 300,000,000 (three hundred billion) stars and is on a collision course with Andromeda, which has about 1,000,000,000 (one trillion stars). They will collide in about 4 or 5 billion years. I know, brace yourself. (If you're interested, google Milky Way Andromeda collision and you'll find lots of simulations out there). Recently I asked an astronomer friend, just how may stars which actually crash into each other when that happens? He said, Well, we don't know for sure, but the current best guess is no more than ten. Stars inside of any one galaxy are very, very far apart. Galaxies are in general even farther apart.

The time frame of just how old our solar system is far vaster than most of us can fully comprehend. And someone who only hears simplistic explanations, such as the Earth being only 6,000 years old, is simply unprepared to understand the reality of things like the time span of human evolution, or just how long ago the dinosaurs roamed.

It's a sad commentary on the state of science education in this country.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
42. How about this one: If the Universe is expanding, into what does it expand?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:53 AM
Jul 2017

Or, from what did dinosaurs evolve?

I don't share the mockery of my fellow DUers, re: Mars. There exists life on the third planet from the sun; who are we to state with certainty that no life ever---as in millions or even billions of years---existed on Mars?

I'll bet many extant humans also have difficulty imagining the erstwhile lush and fertile area now known as the Sahara Desert.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
45. We don't say no life exists on Mars, we say we have no evidence.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jul 2017

Where there is matter and the proper physical conditions, there will be carbon-based life. There may be other forms of life too, of greater complexity. Silica has the same valence property as carbon.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
50. That's called a nonsense question.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jul 2017

The universe doesn't need to expand into something in order to be expanding.

To answer your second question: dinosaurs evolved from archosaurs which evolved from more primitive reptiles, surely you don't believe in creationism?

Thirdly no one said Mars never had life, that's called a straw man argument. Mars has an atmosphere which used to be thicker and it also has water so there's a chance there was some form of life on the red planet. However, that does not mean there were ancient civilizations and that NASA is hiding evidence of them, that's a crackpot conspiracy and it should be mocked.

We're not mocking DUers, we're mocking the congressman from California who asked NASA scientists about ancient civilizations on Mars and embarrassed us all.

And finally the answers to the questions you asked don't prove that the universe needs a reason to exist, it still doesn't.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
53. Right. Best analogy for an expanding universe
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:56 AM
Jul 2017

is to imagine life on the surface of an expanding balloon, only in 4 dimensions, not 2

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
58. I've heard it compared to rubber, but yes - that's a good analogy.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jul 2017

Also the universe encompasses everything so whatever in expands into would become part of the universe.

#science!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
54. Dinosaurs evolved from
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:08 AM
Jul 2017

earlier creatures that adapted to conditions on the planet. They didn't show up from nothing.

Lots of people still cling to the idea, the false idea, that humans are totally unique, show up in the fossil record with no antecedents, and so therefore we must have been put here by aliens. While we don't know the full evolutionary history, we've filled in many of the blanks, and know that we share something like 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. That's not what you'd find if we were from somewhere else.

Again, too many people don't understand just how long several billion years is, or just how geologically active our planet is.

As for the Universe expanding question, that's simply not a valid question. It's simply expanding. Sort of like a balloon expands when you blow it up. It is something you can research on line, or if you know any astrophysicists, they love to discuss that sort of thing.

Oops. I see this question was already answered, which I didn't notice when I posted this. I thought of self-deleting but I'll leave this in place.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. Hence, humanity's continuing drive and determination to find that reason.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jul 2017

Hence, humanity's continuing drive and determination to find that reason.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
57. Humanity is doing no such thing.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jul 2017

Religious people and philosophers may concern themselves with such irrelevant questions but they do not represent the whole of humanity.

Stars and galaxies do not need a creator to be explained.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
23. Dazzle me with science, but you might want to adjust your numbers to fit your sentences
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:56 AM
Jul 2017

(off by a factor of 1,000)

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
55. Not sure I see what you're pointing to.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jul 2017

I am saying what I intend, pointing out there's a vast difference between billions of years and a mere 6,000, although I also recognize that Rohrabacher may not actually believe in such a young earth. He did seem to not understand the difference between millions of years and thousands of years. I just jumped up to billions to account for the actual age of this planet, as well as of Mars.

I did not intend to be confusing or not understand the differences in scale. I just chose a different number. So I apologize if I introduced any confusion with my post.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
65. 300,000,000
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 04:41 PM
Jul 2017

Is three hundred million. 300,000,000,000 is three hundred billion.

You left off three zeros and a comma.

Otherwise, pretty cool.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
66. Ooops. Thank you for the correction!
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 05:09 PM
Jul 2017

I really appreciate that, as I knew perfectly well the number I intended, and just didn't do it correctly.

I like to get things right, so I like it when someone lets me know when I've gotten something wrong.

ProfessorGAC

(65,133 posts)
37. Nit To Pick
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:44 AM
Jul 2017

You don't have enough zeroes in your numbers. In words you spell out 300 billion and a trillion, but in both cases you are missing 3 zeroes. You only have 9 zeroes in your trillion value for stars in Andromeda.

I like your post, but the missing zeroes were bugging me.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
40. "300,000,000 (three hundred billion)" - no it is 300 million
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:47 AM
Jul 2017

"1,000,000,000 (one trillion stars)." no.. it is 1 billion

Just checking up on your math in case that wackos are trolling and do a screen capture





But I did crack up at the fact that only 10 stars will collide






3catwoman3

(24,024 posts)
14. But wait!
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:28 AM
Jul 2017

Isn't there supposed to be some secret child sex-slave colony on Mars? I mean, I know NASA is denying it, but you can't trust them gubmint types.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/nasa-denies-that-its-running-a-child-slave-colony-on-mars

Dear gawd, these folks are lunatics! They should be glad breathing doesn't require informed decision making. Maybe it's too bad it doesn't.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
21. Alien life forms, if you're listening,
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 02:40 AM
Jul 2017

please come take the Republicans.

You can either suck out their brains for a light snack, or put them to work shoveling space manure.

Mesee

(42 posts)
27. Rohrabacher asks about ancient civilizations on Mars. LOL
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 03:37 AM
Jul 2017

I have met Edgar Mitchell along with Richard C. Hoagland, Steven Bassett, Linda Morton Howe from several conferences on Disclosure. NASA and the Vatican acknowledges there was Life on Mars with high definition pictures. (Face on Mars). The men who went to the Moon spoke of witnessing UFO's. It is so easy to mock and laugh rather to explore the NASA research. www.theithersidepofmidnight.com, www.earthfiles.com, www.enterprisemission. com, www.disclosureproject.org. Can you handle the truth?

JHB

(37,161 posts)
31. About that face...NASA says otherwise
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 05:32 AM
Jul 2017

From 2001:

Unmasking the Face
on Mars
New high-resolution images and 3D altimetry from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft reveal the Face on Mars for what it really is: a mesa.

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast24may_1/

The only thing remarkable is how much mileage Hoagland et al. got out of fuzzy early pictures of a rock formation.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
47. Erich von Daniken took $7 million tyo the bank on an idiotic paperback
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:57 AM
Jul 2017

but aliens nonetheless did not build everything exceptional wherever people of color live on the earth. People will sell the least probably ideas for money or to spread their fantasies, and there will always be suckers who pay for it.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
30. Remember, this guy gets re-elected because our candidates suck
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 05:27 AM
Jul 2017

Love the discreet shout-out to the creationists though.

My father is fond of saying "If Congressman Rohrabacher sat down on the steps of Congress he would be arrested for vagrancy."

salin

(48,955 posts)
44. esp - he was warned previously.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:12 AM
Jul 2017

Gone from useful fool, to intentional tool - for the Russian's interests.

Indeed it is shameful. Will his constituents ever catch on?

Renew Deal

(81,868 posts)
35. Somebody had to ask
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:31 AM
Jul 2017

I don't think the question on it's own is bad. It's the Jesus riding a dinosaur context that makes him look ridiculous.

salin

(48,955 posts)
38. Dana, sounds like you have been listening
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:49 AM
Jul 2017

to L Ron Hubbard, as well as the Russians. (Scientology would support his question about Mars and ancient civilizations - and wouldn't be flustered by the answer in terms of Billions of years, but wouldn't believe the no evidence part of the answer.)

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
49. Wonder Woman totally took out Mars earlier this summer.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:06 AM
Jul 2017

She took a principled stand for love, honesty, integrity and truth, and emerged from the conflict with deserved honor.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
67. Play the Republican game. Just say yes so NASA gets funded!
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jul 2017

Yes, there are ancient civilizations and we have reason to believe they were Christian.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
73. And Russia wants him to
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jul 2017

be the voice to push for sanctions release.

I guess maybe they're not as savvy as I thought.


This mess is my congress critter. We had a lot of fun with the Mars thing at our Huddle meeting last night.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
74. How has Trump not yet appointed him head of NASA or the National Science Foundation?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:37 AM
Jul 2017

I think the Don's slippin'.

dchill

(38,515 posts)
76. I'm less concerned with ancient Martian civilization...
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:23 AM
Jul 2017

than I am about the current one on Earth. I'm concerned about Republican Congressmen who do their damnedest to destroy it. Like US Representative and Russian agent Dana Rohrabacher.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
78. Doesn't the house have rules about loonballs talking?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:29 PM
Jul 2017

if not they need to - Rohrabacher is proof of that!

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