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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJill Stein, Russian colluder, mocks "ludicrous Russia conspiracy theories."
No progressive should ever take her or her party seriously again.
Link to tweet
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)it is a perfect fit.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Maybe a cabinet position will open up for Stein?
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)FarPoint
(12,409 posts)Treasonous crimes?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)lapucelle
(18,268 posts)"Judiciary Committee Requests Trump Campaign's Correspondence with Jill Stein, List of 40 Others"
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3897968-2017-07-19-CEG-DF-to-Donald-Trump-Jr-Document.html
(To be fair, the Chiavari ghost chairs are kinda cool.)
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Fuck you Jill Stein....
I really, really am hoping that when Mueller's team is done investigating and the report comes out, there will be a really nice section on you and your complicity in this Russian assault on our democracy.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Marcuse
(7,487 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)They don't give a damn about the environment.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Brains don't have a logical component.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The enemy of my enemy....
Takket
(21,575 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Probably both.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... DT Jr meet with Russians at all according to PPP.
These people are mentally lazy to look at other perspectives.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Just old-fashioned greed and opportunism
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Wifi eating our children's brains, anti-vaxxer, healing crystals, etc.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)when she had no shot, okay. She stayed in to shave 1 or 2 pc off...why, when not a chance in hell to win? That was the deal. We help fund & you are in until the bitter end, plus maybe some, like w Flynn, out of the Russian largesse. She colluded for something, IMHO.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Not the impeachment of trump, not don jr or kushner in jail.
My hatred for her and the #jillnothill people is absolute
yardwork
(61,641 posts)Every single one of them helped destroy democracy.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)I have a decades old friend that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire over this.
MBS
(9,688 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)No wonder you're so nervous.
See Page 2:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3897968-2017-07-19-CEG-DF-to-Donald-Trump-Jr-Document.html
delisen
(6,044 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)DOCTOR jill stein sounds so damned Republican; her tweet actually reads like Trump's major b.s. tweets, but with better grammar.
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)"First do no harm" Jill.
Her denial of russia ties calling it a conspiracy theory seals the deal she is a putin puppet. How does one spiral from an Internist & environmental advocate to this?
Her partial recount (rather than an audit) was basically to deflect from looking closer at election results... "look, nothing to see here - I checked it for ya".
ZX86
(1,428 posts)As a rival to the Democratic Party she should be taken very seriously. As noted here in several threads she along with Susan Sarandon cost the Democrats the White house.
Should we address the issues she raises or ignore them?
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)Here are the On The Issues.org political philosophy graphics for the the two Democratic contenders for the nomination and the dubious Dr. Stein. One skews a bit more populist, one skews a bit more libertarian, and one falls smack in the middle. All three are rated "hard-core liberal".
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)committed to the progressive views she spouts off about.
spanone
(135,844 posts)counsel....that is SOOOOO fucking funny!!!!!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)PatSeg
(47,496 posts)How many high profile traitors do we have in this country?
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)are like the idiots from the reagan campaign who used "Born In The USA" as a theme song. All they heard was the few lines of the chorus and went with it. The didn't listen to the song itself.
These idiots were pulled in because the party name said "Green". Never looked deep or thought about anything.
I want to see Sanders shoot her down with a vicious speech. If he takes her support, he is culpable.
lark
(23,105 posts)She's a disgusting vile pretend human.
yardwork
(61,641 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Your days are numbered too.
MichMan
(11,932 posts)Still can't believe all those fools that enabled her by sending her money
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)there was only one recount done out of three, and she had a few million dollars left over to use as she decides.
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)This idiot is a tool of russia and helped elect trump.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Wacky that she doesn't even believe the intelligence agencies conclusions . Telling statement. I knew it.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Apologies Mr Dylan, Nobel Prize (American)
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)She literally represents a fringe.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Ralph Nader turned the 2000 election as a member of the same "fringe."
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)Personally I do "blame" Nader for 2000. The difference in Florida between Gore and Bush was literally at most a few hundred votes, no matter how it was counted. Yes Green Party voters had a right to vote for Nader, everyone has that right in a Democracy. So in a sense it isn't fair to blame anyone for simply exercising their right to vote their conscience. Nader was asked to back off in close swing states, and he refused. Had he not refused I have no doubt Gore would have picked up the hundred or two hundred votes he needed to win in Florida. So it is clear to me that Gore would have won had Nader not contested that election himself
I don't think the same can be said with any degree of confidence regarding Stein in 2016. Technically it is true that had all Stein voters voted for Clinton instead in the states you mention that Clinton would have won, but the margins in those states were in the tens of thousands, not a few hundred. Many of Stein's voters were never going to vote Democratic even if no Green Party candidate ran. Even if Stein had never been born and thus had no say in what happened, many would have stayed home along with millions of other potential voters. Many would have joined the tens of thousands of left leaning millennials who voted Libertarian instead of Democratic. Why not blame them too? Or the many millions of apathetic or disillusioned adult American citizens who don't participate in our elections? Non voters "won" the plurality in quite a few states.
There will always be fringes in politics. In parliamentary democracy systems they simply are regarded as factions, to either invite into a coalition or not, depending on whether they clear the threshold needed in order to be seated and how badly you want their support.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)to give them millions of dollars for a 3 state recount that never happened -- and that they knew wouldn't happen.
Every progressive who voted for Stein was either complicit or duped.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)The Republicans faced a smaller fringe challenge from Evan McMullin, who focused on getting Conservatives to vote against Trump. He ended up with about half the votes Stein got, even though the Greens have been organized for decades.
Trial_By_Fire
(624 posts)Was there polling that ask these questions?
Probably not as progressives are way more intelligent to do either...
Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)Perhaps you're showing a bit too much of your true loyalties with this tweet.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)they care to admit. Anything that hurts Democrats and otherwise disrupts the system is all they seem to crave. I've said since 2000, that anyone who still considers them allies, or worth "reaching out" to has obviously had some blunt force trauma to the head.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)kentuck
(111,101 posts)Even though she didn't have a chance?
But only to harm another candidate.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)that a DNC that could not or would not fix congressional and senate races would somehow be willing and able to fix primaries that she was somehow on anyone's side but her own.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)sense of irony in seeing this. After the times where she and other Greens tried to argue that both major parties are "two sides of the same coin", it looks like they could be the ones who have something in common with Toupe Fiasco and the GOP after all.
JI7
(89,251 posts)Lunabell
(6,082 posts)Her minions are just as bad as trump's.
Lunabell
(6,082 posts)What happened to all the recount millions she raised?
JI7
(89,251 posts)Lunabell
(6,082 posts)She may be going to jail along with her pal, trump.
longship
(40,416 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)russia's that-a-way --------->
Hope you and your cult choke on your convfefe you treasonous asses.
GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 23, 2017, 09:08 AM - Edit history (1)
and having seen this ivory tower Sovietophile version of leftism - as if the Soviet Union were the best example of Marxism, as opposed to what it actually is, the worst - and given Stein's lack of any political credibility whatsoever this does not surprise me at all. There will always be a miniscule fraction of leftists who believe Putin or anyone else associated with the former Soviet Union are one step from sainthood.
I do have to ask though what it accomplishes to "shine a light" on a relative handful of wannabe Putinists and an even smaller handful of left leaning voters who so despise Secretary Clinton that they still deny that Putin and his buddies were one of the factors in her defeat especially when it simultaneously provides greater exposure for their poison. They pose no threat to the strength of our Party. They aren't credible even to true Marxists. Unless there is some cathartic value in screaming at nobodies like Stein or unless she is an straw man for smearing leftists in general - which I could understand if one disagreed the current slight leftward turn of the Party, I fail to see why she merits the attention she is receiving.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)GaryCnf
(1,399 posts)bringing along the ivory tower socialist I described above was part although a small part of Putin's manipulation of the election. I would have little problem if these almost daily posts were pointing that out. Even then there come a point where it's swatting the Stein gnat in Putin's overall invasion scheme with a hammer - I have to add I am not sure we've reached the point where it does until that dark corner has been fully illuminated and that corner is still pretty dimly lit.
Taking her know villainy - and I hope it is well known - as a given and then trying to tie that villainy to leftist politics is another matter. That may be great politics when it comes to battling the Party's leftward drift if that concerns you but it is bad for what actually is a very unified and focused Democratic Party.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)their way back.
Last November, they managed to dupe millions of dollars out of hopeful Democrats for the recount-that-would-never-happen and were able to keep the left-over three million for their purposes.
And in two swing states they got more votes than the final margin between Hillary and DT. Ignoring that party is not helpful.
I'll concede that one. There was and is zero doubt in my mind that her entire "recount" effort was a 100% scam.
That and the fact that she is as much of a fraud as Nader when it comes to adhering to true socialist principles is why I wouldn't give her one red - pun intended - cent.
I stand corrected.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)@$!# Jill Stein.
Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)Traitor as well!
In her own way, she is as big a POS as Trump is.
She has NO credibility. NONE!
DFW
(54,403 posts)I get the distinct impression that the lady doth protest too much. What's her fear? That Mueller, in the course of following the money, might stumble onto her finances as well, and cause her next ticket to Moscow to be one way?
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Hell is too good for her.