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I think that Boston Globe story about Romney has legs. Could Mitt drop out? (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Jul 2012 OP
It is actually inconcievable. democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #1
I agree. It'll be bad for a news cycle or two and then the GOP and our "liberal" media will say it FSogol Jul 2012 #15
Precisely. It's one of those things that just doesn't happen. TheWraith Jul 2012 #18
There is always a first time. randome Jul 2012 #19
No Presidential candidate has ever committed suicide on camera, either. TheWraith Jul 2012 #21
That would be a hand off to Ron Paul. oh goody. nt Snotcicles Jul 2012 #2
Would rather have RP debating Obama than Rmoney think Jul 2012 #11
The thing is Ron Paul never dropped out of the race. nt Snotcicles Jul 2012 #14
If you think RP is honest, you're just as crazy as them. FSogol Jul 2012 #16
What ever dude. Fuck Mitt Romney and endless wars. think Jul 2012 #20
Ron Paul the extreme racist and homophobe? TheWraith Jul 2012 #23
Inflation makes that a very small BlueToTheBone Jul 2012 #31
It would be helpful if you identified the story you are talking about. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #3
Jeb is waiting in the wing on his trusty white steed to rescue the day Brother Buzz Jul 2012 #4
Jeb justabob Jul 2012 #8
He's thrown himself under the bus. L0oniX Jul 2012 #22
I don't know if the Republican Party could survive if the nominee quit in disgrace aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #5
The Republican base would, indeed, act pretty much like nothing had happened. TheWraith Jul 2012 #24
I suspect that the Obama campaign was going to hit him with this RDANGELO Jul 2012 #6
He might get run out at the convention. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #7
No way RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #9
Nope. The Titanic has already set sail. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #10
Unfortunately, too many rMoney problems before his nomination is sealed. Reminds me SDjack Jul 2012 #12
Has there ever been a Presidential election when one party decided not to field a candidate? randome Jul 2012 #13
He won't. He has gotten this far thinking and doing as he does. MissMarple Jul 2012 #17
Nope. In fact, this will be spun as a liberal media attack. Avalux Jul 2012 #25
Romney is the WORST candidate for Republicans lovuian Jul 2012 #26
It doesn't involve sex Mz Pip Jul 2012 #27
If RMoney tied a BAIN victim on top of his car IDemo Jul 2012 #28
Telling the world that you quit as CEO in 1999 but having that same company file ... Botany Jul 2012 #29
MITT ..... go to the Moon!!! You are not wanted on Earth trueblue2007 Jul 2012 #30

FSogol

(45,527 posts)
15. I agree. It'll be bad for a news cycle or two and then the GOP and our "liberal" media will say it
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jul 2012

is ok.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
18. Precisely. It's one of those things that just doesn't happen.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jul 2012

I don't believe any Presidential candidate in the modern era has ever dropped out at this point in the race.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
21. No Presidential candidate has ever committed suicide on camera, either.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jul 2012

But I'm not expecting it to happen any time soon.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
11. Would rather have RP debating Obama than Rmoney
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jul 2012

RP is still a Republican but the debate would center around REAL issues like military spending which is out of control, the war on drugs which is sapping resources and perpetuating the police state and prison industry, and restoring the constitution which has been abandoned since Bush and continued under Obama.

Ya, RP has a lot of crazy ideals but compared to the rest of the Repugs he is at least honest and shares some core values that use to be important to Dems and progressives like those listed above. I have absolutely NOTHING in common with Rmoney, Santorum, Cantor and the rest of the corporate whores who lie through their teeth to keep the sheep scared and in line.

If the Dems aren't concerned about out of control military and security spending, ending the war on drugs, and restoring our civil rights then I am very concerned. So far under Obama all three of these issues have been buried as the Repugs have no problem with him there and that is frustrating to say the least.

That said I still am behind Obama but I am really sick of his Republican light schtick and want some real fucking progressive change.

I'm glad Obama pushed healthcare and got something passed. I also think he did a great job on pulling us out of the hole left by Bush and appreciate that it's been a tough road for him.

Still if a Republican candidate was pushing to reduce our imperialism and military budget, end the war on drugs, getting rid of the patriot act, and ending the police state mentality it would allow Obama to take a fresh approach to those issues where he currently is out Republicaning the Repugs on.

my 2 cents....

 

think

(11,641 posts)
20. What ever dude. Fuck Mitt Romney and endless wars.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:50 PM
Jul 2012

If you'd rather have Rmoney than Ron Paul that's your decision. I want Obama but My 2nd choice out of the three would definitely be RP over Mitt Romney any day of the week. Romney is Dubya on steroids in my mind.

Besides you act like Obama could actually lose to Ron Paul. And I prefer to talk about ISSUES not just call people crazy and say FUCK RON PAUL. Ron Paul has many issues I would disagree with but not when it comes to war, the war on drugs, and the fucking Patriot ACT.

We will spend over a trillion mother fucking dollars on the military and homeland security this year. That is whacked!
Mitt would spend even more on the military and probably get us into another war.

So FUCK MITT ROMNEY and the fucking gravy boat world he lives in.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
23. Ron Paul the extreme racist and homophobe?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jul 2012

The guy who said that "Those who don't commit sodomy, get blood transfusions, or swap needles are virtually assured of not getting AIDS unless they are deliberately infected by a malicious gay"? The guy who said that the Rodney King riots ended because "the blacks had to pick up their welfare checks"? The guy who said that people with AIDS "enjoy the pity and attention that comes with being sick"?

Saying that Ron Paul is good on some issues is sort of like saying that yes, Hitler had problems with anti-semitism, but he loved children, was a vegetarian, and supported affordable transportation for the public. Technically all that's true, but it doesn't make the man any less of a fucking asshole.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
31. Inflation makes that a very small
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:34 PM
Jul 2012

contribution to the discourse of progressive politics. He thinks we should all fend for ourselves. His ex-campaign staffer died because he wasn't offered health insurance through his employer - Ron Paul. He's as evil as his son is foolish.

If you want dirt roads,
no schools
no hospitals
no libraries
no public services
no street lights

Libertarian = You're on your own. Good Luck and don't let the door hit you in the ass as you die a quick and brutish death.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. It would be helpful if you identified the story you are talking about.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jul 2012
Here it is

This is the revelation that Romney is lying his ass off and is on the record lying his ass off about his career at Bain. he has a whole lot of 'splaining to do.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
8. Jeb
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:08 PM
Jul 2012

Does he really have a better chance than Mitt? I don't know if he does. I don't think even the GOP is ready for another Bush candidacy, even if he is "the smart one". Who else is there besides the original group that ran, and Jeb? I think they are stuck with Mitt unless he is indicted/arrested for something.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. I don't know if the Republican Party could survive if the nominee quit in disgrace
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jul 2012

and coming on the heels of the Palin and Bush fiascos. It would be the trifecta of disgrace. If the party acted like nothing happened with a new nominee, AND IF REPUBLICAN VOTERS ACTED LIKE NOTHING HAD HAPPENED, I would be frightened out of my mind over this country.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
24. The Republican base would, indeed, act pretty much like nothing had happened.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jul 2012

This election would turn into a blowout, because the middle would care, but the Republican base would go right back to normal.

RDANGELO

(3,435 posts)
6. I suspect that the Obama campaign was going to hit him with this
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jul 2012

Boston Globe stuff sometime after the convention. I am also getting a hunch that he has not been truthful to his own campaign insiders. The way this came about, Romney walked right into a succor punch with him calling Obama a liar for the past week. Maybe if he was truthful with them, they would have realized what a flawed candidate he was , and he never would have made it this far. If it gets much worse, I think there is a chance he could get dumped at the convention.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
7. He might get run out at the convention.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jul 2012

If he can't release his tax returns and more Bain stuff keeps coming out I think it's not impossible. Rules are no obstacle for the GOP.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
9. No way
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jul 2012

Republicans can't recover from a PR nightmare that big. The vast majority of Americans aren't really paying attention yet. If they drop Rmoney for one of their other pathetic candidates that's all the media would be talking about until election day. What replacement do they have? Santorum is an extremist that will turn off everyone but the wingnuts.

They'll just stick to the lie that he did not run Bain after 1999 and the MSM will probably not hold him accountable. Most voters won't even realize why it matters if he's lying or not about his Bain record. However, if the SEC gets involved...that's a whole new level of scandal.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
12. Unfortunately, too many rMoney problems before his nomination is sealed. Reminds me
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jul 2012

of the Spike Jones performance of "Beetle Bomb" -- a horse race in which Beetle Bomb runs last place past every marker but emerges, without notice, as the winner. (Nootie, it's happening just like you wanted. Do you see yourself as BeetleBomb?)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Has there ever been a Presidential election when one party decided not to field a candidate?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jul 2012

Maybe back when Roosevelt seemed unstoppable? I'm thinking we may actually see this happen this year. The GOP will either purposely push a candidate they and everyone else knows cannot win or they will pull out and concede the election to Obama.

I'm still trying to not be optimistic but I think one of these two scenarios is becoming more likely.

MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
17. He won't. He has gotten this far thinking and doing as he does.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jul 2012

He's doing just fine, ask him. Everything is just great.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
25. Nope. In fact, this will be spun as a liberal media attack.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jul 2012

Doesn't matter the facts or documentation....the GOP base will stick with Rmoney instead of admitting they have a dud.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
26. Romney is the WORST candidate for Republicans
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jul 2012

and he will lose

and at first they were in denial but now they realize they are very screwed

his connection to Obamacare is so ironic

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
27. It doesn't involve sex
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:06 PM
Jul 2012

so Rmoney will ride it out.

I am going to have to read the whole Boston Globe article because right now I can't make heads or tails out of this story and why it matters. I have been out of the loop for the past week and apparently have some catching up to do.

I would like nothing better than a full blown Rmoney campaign crisis but it has to be one that the general public can easily understand.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
28. If RMoney tied a BAIN victim on top of his car
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jul 2012

and spun donuts on camera, his base would congratulate him for promoting public transportation.

Non-story after one, two news cycles tops.

Botany

(70,585 posts)
29. Telling the world that you quit as CEO in 1999 but having that same company file ...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jul 2012

... returns that you were still the CEO until 2002 during which time thousand of people
lost their jobs because of the actions of that company will really be a drag on Mitt's
campaign. If this story blows up and grows legs it could force Mitt from the race but
I once thought that an alcoholic w/ a history of cocaine use who went AWOL and drove
3 businesses into the ditch could never be President.

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