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MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 11:58 AM Jul 2017

What to Do if Your Local Democratic Organization Seems Unfriendly

I've read that many times here when I've encouraged participating in local Democratic Party politics. People will say that they went to a local party organization meeting, but it was an unfriendly group, so they never went back. Well, it can be difficult to become part of any existing organization, but you shouldn't give up. If your goals mean something to you, the effort is worthwhile to be part of the process. Here are some ideas you can use to get over that newcomer feeling. I realize that some are going to come into this thread and attempt to nay-say what I'm suggesting. Ignore those people. They're wrong:

1. If a group seems unfriendly to newcomers, look around. Find someone who smiles when you look at them and go introduce yourself. There are always people in any group who are open to new faces. Find those people.

2. Don't leave and fail to return after just one meeting. Come back for the next one and the ones after that. Follow step 1 in this list each time and make acquaintances in the group. Joining any group and becoming part of it takes some time. Not long, but some time.

3. Volunteer. There's always stuff to do that goes begging. Maybe they need people to stuff envelopes or to set up the meeting room before meetings, or whatever. Just volunteer. Or just pitch in if you see people doing necessary things. Participating by volunteering will make many friends, I guarantee.

3. Listen before you speak. You have something to say that's very important, of course. But, a willingness to listen is equally important, especially in group settings. You'll have opportunities to offer your thoughts, but don't insist on doing so when open dialog isn't the order of business. Listen to others and learn more about what the current priorities and norms of the group are.

4. Don't be rude. That might seem like an unnecessary caution, but it's not. I've seen too many people come into a group for the first time and immediately start telling the group what is wrong with that group. That's rude and will poison the group against the issues you want to raise. Reread point 3. Be patient. You'll have your opportunities, but present your points politely and clearly, without attacking others.

5. Be patient with existing group leadership. Yes, you may find the business side of group meetings boring and useless, but just let them happen. Leadership in Democratic Party local organizations is a volunteer thing. It's also a thankless job. Yes, most of the leadership is old, but those people were once young and had idealistic principles, too. They've volunteered to chair meetings and do all of the other business of the group. Don't be tempted to dismiss the importance of that.

6. Be prepared to offer services in lieu of monetary donations. If you don't have money, donate your time. If the group is holding a fundraiser, for example, that costs more than you can afford, volunteer to work at that fundraiser. Talk to the committee chair that is organizing it. Help to set up, clean up, hand out name tags, check people in, or any other function that needs to be done. You'll still get to attend the fundraiser, and when your task is done, you can mingle with everyone else. Time and money are more or less interchangeable.

7. Be constant in attendance and participation. Show up. That's the first rule if you want to become a real, working part of any organization. People will notice you. People will get used to seeing you. People will recognize you and will listen to you when you have points to raise or suggestions to make. It all takes time and presence to make this happen.

8. Be prepared to speak. Don't stand up to address the group without knowing clearly what it is you want to say. When you have an opportunity, have a plan already in place to take advantage of that opportunity. And there will be many opportunities to make your case, whatever it is. Take them. But make the most of them. Be concise, coherent and on-topic. People will listen.

9. Volunteer for leadership positions. Democratic Party organizations at all levels have committees, boards, and a number of leadership positions. All involve being elected at whatever annual meeting that includes elections of leadership people. If you've followed the first 8 steps above, you're ready. There's always someone who is ready to step down - someone who has volunteered but who would like to spend more time on other things. When nominations are open, offer yourself for open positions. Self-nomination is the name of the game and is an acceptable thing to do. If your local organization is typical, you'll be the only one willing and will get elected. Don't try to become the organization chair the first time. Just get on a committee or do some other job. But become part of the leadership group.

10. Finally, your participation in a local Democratic Party organization will be what you make it. If you want to participate and follow the steps to becoming part of leadership, then it's up to you to find the time and the energy to be part of leadership. Be careful not to take a position you're not willing to actually fill. When you get that position, do the job the best you can. In a far shorter time than you think, you'll become an important part of the organization. When you do get into a leadership position, please remember what you thought when you came to the first meeting and don't be one of the unwelcoming people you didn't like at that first meeting.

I know. This was long-winded and preachy. Oh, well. It's my opinion, and it's based on having done all those things in my 50 years of being part of the Democratic Party wherever I have lived. It works. Thanks for reading.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,887 posts)
1. Happens in any group. All seem cliquey at first.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jul 2017

Don't give up.
Find commonality where you can.
Trump jokes always work. Lol.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
2. Yes. The same rules work for any type of organization,
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jul 2017

really. If a group seems strange to you at first, remember that you're a stranger to them, too.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
5. Yuck! This post is the exact type of thing that turns people off [shaking head]
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jul 2017

This impulse to "school" people -- in what to think, in how they should feel, how to react -- is abhorrent to a lot of Democrats, me included. There's a tone to some rhetoric that is like steel talons on a chalkboard to a lot of us, and it seems like too many organizers in the party don't even know they're doing it. I offer this constructively and sincerely. Just stop.

The trend lines of the party's success have been turning down just as the Democrats' attempt to assume the mantle of being the "good guy" party has been turned up. We aren't the "good guys" -- never have been. We're the guys that are going to grab the fat cat bastards that are ruining everything, turn them upside down, turn out their pockets and shake them until America's stolen future falls out.

So stop telling people to play nice. Tell them to get mad. That lends cohesion that a desire to play nice never will. What makes local party crap tolerable is constant mindfulness of the common adversary.

End of rant

Leith

(7,813 posts)
16. That Is Some Terrific Enthusiasm That Would Benefit Democrats
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jul 2017

Please read this in the nicest way possible: perhaps it could be redirected towards the ones who are the real enemy and not towards allies who want to work toward your same goals - even if expressed differently?

Mineral Man is not the lecturing type. What he had to say is important, no matter what kind of group of people that you seek to become part of. The new person needs to find out how to fit into a group by finding out how the group works first. A person can't just walk through the door for the first time and expect everyone to exclaim that he or she is just what they have been hoping and praying for.

Yes, stay mad! But don't direct that anger at your friends. Use it against those who are working for everything that you profess to hate.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
17. Not mad at Mineral Man. Not enthusiastic. Exasperated.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jul 2017

What you read as anger is exasperation. Even your reply expresses this compulsion to smooth everything out -- just pull back on the throttle, friend. Go with the flow. We know what we're doing. Don't make waves. Well... that way of operating is losing! And it isn't just an intellectual exercise for many of us.

If LIHEAP heating assistance is cut this year, I will spend this winter living in 2 rooms -- sitting in front of a propane heater, with the rest of the house closed off. That's all I'll be able to afford. When I hear the same tone of rhetoric that has gotten us to where we are -- the tone that drove so many, who rightfully should be Democrats, into the arms of a charismatic potential dictator, that exasperates me. If those steering, even at the local level, can't understand that what they're doing to attract the same old crowd is repelling any potential new crowd, then something needs to be said -- forcefully.

I like nice. I prefer nice. But nice isn't cutting it.

Logic dictated that it was time for an emotional outburst. (-:
LLAP

airmid

(500 posts)
8. I have to say...I have been a Dem for over 35 yrs and my local office changed dramatically in
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jul 2017

the last election. Many were snide to newcomers and belittled them in hushed voices and later openly. And yes, this was mostly aimed at Sanders supporters, mostly new voters or the younger crowd. I and a few did our best to make them welcome, try to impress upon them that not all Dems were like this but every week we watched more and more slip away. It was disconcerting. I stayed in touch with many of them and while most voted Hillary, some gave up and didn't vote at all. I have worked my ass off in every election, calling and canvassing, etc. But these same people were determined to drum the few of us out that were trying our best to get these new voters to stay with the Party. And they succeeded for the most part. I have moved since the last election. I am hoping my new local office is not like this.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
9. When that happens, it's time for a takeover of that group.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jul 2017

If there are enough people who want that, it can happen.

airmid

(500 posts)
12. Absolutely agree. But it can be hard to lead a charge of one. But I am hard headed and I don't
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jul 2017

give up easily. That's why I tried to keep in touch with everyone.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
13. Yes, that's the thing. A takeover requires
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jul 2017

enough people willing to stick it out and make it happen. That can be very difficult to manage. A complete change of direction for any organization usually takes at least a year or two, unfortunately, and it's tough to find enough people who will hang in there until it is possible.

I've seen it happen, but rarely.

airmid

(500 posts)
14. I think that your list would be good to print out and take with me. Maybe some folks just need
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jul 2017

a little help on how to go about things.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
15. Maybe. It probably won't convince impatient people though.
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 01:38 PM
Jul 2017

That's the most difficult part, really, being patient, while you proceed.

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