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Libor Lawsuits Are Piling Up And Could Cost Billions, Banks Brace For Another Big Legal Battle
Advisor Network |7/12/2012 @ 1:25PM
The Libor rate scandal could make banks mortgage and foreclosure troubles look like childs play and that doesnt bode well for an industry still in recovery mode. The best case scenario is that banks were just lying about their own Libor rates independently which is what Barclays says it was doing when it paid up $450 million to settle charges last week. But there have been whispers by some (and apparently some evidence that has yet to surface) that say banks actually colluded to fix the daily interest rate. If proven true, it will mean major trouble for banks and the criminal aspect of the case gets even stronger.
How? The Libor rate affects about $800 trillion dollars of contracts and all sorts if financial instruments globally, according to experts. Investors of all sizes use the rate as a basis for a variety of financial products; homeowners mortgages, consumers credit cards and even city governments use derivatives contracts tied to Libor when issuing some bonds.
Some investors, specifically those who were receiving some form of payment from banks based on the Libor rate, allege that banks including Barclays, Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and others have been manipulating Libor basing payments on false rates.
Who has a claim? Anyone with a floating rate. The suits are building with some class actions forming already, says bank analyst Glenn Schorr of Nomura. Earlier this year three plaintiff groups including Charles Schwab and the City of Baltimore filed suits against the 16 banks that submit Libor rates accusing them of collusion, or price fixing, under the Sherman Antitrust Act. Its a damning allegation that has the potential to cost banks hundreds of billions of dollars.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2012/07/12/libor-lawsuits-are-piling-up-and-could-cost-billions-banks-brace-for-another-big-legal-battle/
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US Banks Sweat Libor Scandal Spanking
By Dan Freed 07/12/12 - 03:05 PM EDT
NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- The Libor-fixing scandal has yet to significantly impact shares of Bank of America(BAC_), JPMorgan Chase(JPM_)or Citigroup(C_), though the threat is likely to hang over the companies for several months at the very least.
"We're not sure this potentially large problem is 'fully priced in' just because it's received a bunch of press so far," wrote analysts at Nomura in a 21-page research report published Thursday, which attempts to assess the potential impact of the scandal.
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http://www.thestreet.com/story/11615215/1/us-banks-sweat-libor-scandal-spanking.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN
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Assessing Libor's impact
State, prosecutors to examine if agencies lostmoney over ratemanipulation scandal
By Steven Syre
Globe Staff / July 12, 2012
Massachusetts prosecutors will meet with state finance officials next week to examine whether public agencies lost money when a key interest rate used to price loans and credit around the world was manipulated by bankers several years ago.
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http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2012/07/12/mass_attorney_general_treasury_officials_examine_state_impact_of_libor_scandal/
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Huey P. Long
(1,932 posts)I know, I know... still protecting the bankers.
WORTHLESS.
democrat_patriot
(2,774 posts)I say f*** 'em - unless it hurts my savings :>
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Is that so many, mostly republicans, say there no need to put in tougher regulations on these people, they say they can regulate themselves. Well this is just one more example of what happens when they are hit with tough regulations. How any sane person in this country could actually support "less" regulation on the banking industry is beyond belief!
Huey P. Long
(1,932 posts)July 12, 2012
The Market Has Spoken, and It Is Rigged
By SIMON JOHNSON
In the aftermath of the Barclays rate-fixing scandal, the most surprising reaction has been from people in the financial sector who fully understand the awfulness of what has happened. Rather than seeing this as an issue of law and order, some well-informed people have been drawn toward arguments that excuse or justify the behavior of the Barclays employees.
This is a big mistake, in terms of the economics at stake and the likely political impact.
The behavior at Barclays has all the hallmarks of fraud intentional deception for personal gain, causing significant damage to others.
The Commodity Futures Trading Commission nailed the detailed mechanics of this deception in plain English in its Order Instituting Proceedings (which is also a settlement and series of admissions by Barclays). Most of the compelling quotes from traders involved in this scandal come from the commissions order, but too few commentators seem to have read the full document. Please look at it now, if you have not done so already.
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http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/12/the-market-has-spoken-and-it-is-rigged/
Huey P. Long
(1,932 posts)Just as we noted here, the analyst estimates for the potential impact of Libor (litigation and regulatory) liabilities have begun. Morgan Stanley sees up to a 17% hit to 2012 EPS (from $420 to $847 million per bank) in a worst case from just regulatory costs, and a further 6.8% potential hit to 2013 EPS if the top-down $400 million average per banks losses from litigation are taken on one year (considerably more if the bottom-up numbers of more than $1 billion are included). They see LIBOR risk in three parts: regulatory fines (we est median 7-12% hit to 12 EPS; litigation risk (7% EPS hit over 2 yrs); and less certainty on forward earnings. There are a plethora of assumptions - as one would expect - but the ranges of potential regulatory fine and litigation risk are very large though the MS analysts make the greater point that the LIBOR 'fixing' broadens investor support for more transparency in fixed income trading in addition to fixed income clearing leaving the threat of thinner margins as another investor concern.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/here-come-libor-liability-estimates
Huey P. Long
(1,932 posts)The Huffington Post | By Bonnie Kavoussi Posted: 07/12/2012 3:35 pm
Updated: 07/12/2012 3:59 pm
Everyone should be paying attention to the Libor scandal, at least according to Warren Buffett.
"It's a big deal," Buffett told CNBC "Squawk Box" host Becky Quick Thursday. "You get Libor, and you're talking about the whole world."
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Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi recently said it was likely that most or all of these banks were guilty of rigging Libor, since 16 banks help set the Libor rate every day. On CNBC, Buffett called Libor "the base rate for the whole world."
"Everything is tied in [to Libor]," Buffett said. "The idea that a bunch of traders can start e-mailing each other or phoning each other and play around with that rate is an important thing, and it is not good for the system." Buffett said that unwinding the collateral damage from the alleged Libor rate-rigging will not be easy because millions of contracts are based on Libor.
"It is a can of worms," he said.
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VIDEO at link-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/warren-buffett-libor-scandal_n_1668649.html
Huey P. Long
(1,932 posts)You are being fucked over and over, with no one stopping them.
You WILL bail these people out, again.
renate
(13,776 posts)Is that really true? I thought the banks were making record profits and it's the economy that's still running on fumes. Maybe this is just a quibble since the solidity of the banks isn't the point of the article; it just seems like a weird mistake for a Forbes article to confuse the strength of banks with the strength of the economy.
Huey P. Long
(1,932 posts)They are there to lend a sympathetic tone to the crime bosses. Spin.