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What would a declining American empire mean to an average American citizen? (Original Post) raccoon Jul 2017 OP
Problems when in foreign countries?? nt bobbieinok Jul 2017 #1
We already know. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #2
You'd have to ask them first 'what does American empire' mean? n/t leftstreet Jul 2017 #3
Open season on minorities? Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #4
Ever see the largely forgettable TV series MissB Jul 2017 #5
Fewer wars? GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #6
The US has an empire? You mean Guam, HeartachesNhangovers Jul 2017 #7
Yes, you're forgetting nearly 800 military bases in 70+ countries . . .. hatrack Jul 2017 #8
Aren't all those foreign bases there with HeartachesNhangovers Jul 2017 #9
Depends how you define "consent", doesn't it? hatrack Jul 2017 #10

MissB

(15,812 posts)
5. Ever see the largely forgettable TV series
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jul 2017

Dark Angel, circa 2000 with Jessica Alba and Michael Weatherly? It'd be like that, minus the genetically altered kids.

7. The US has an empire? You mean Guam,
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jul 2017

Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands? Am I forgetting any of our vast empire?

9. Aren't all those foreign bases there with
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:05 PM
Jul 2017

the consent of the foreign country? If so, that doesn't count as an empire.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
10. Depends how you define "consent", doesn't it?
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 07:23 PM
Jul 2017

Tens of thousands of people have demanded an end to the United States' military presence on the Japanese island of Okinawa following the killing of a local woman.

Kenneth Franklin Shinzato, a 32-year-old civilian worker who was stationed at the U.S. Kadena Air Base, was last month arrested on suspicion of murdering the 20 year old and abandoning her body.

In an emotional letter read out during a march on the island Sunday, the victim's father said, for the local people's protection, all United States military bases on Japan's Okinawa prefecture had to go.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/asia/us-military-base-protests-okinawa/index.html

This has been going on for decades, btw - rapes, murders, drunk driving fatalities by US personnel or contractors.

In the 1970s, British officials ordered that Chagossian dogs be rounded up. They were then gassed to death. Then they shipped the Chagossian people more than a thousand miles away to Mauritius, a former British colony, where the people lived in abject poverty.

Declassified messages between the British and U.S. governments show a plot to wipe all human life off the islands to make way for the U.S. military base.

"There will be no indigenous population except seagulls," says one cable from 1966. "Unfortunately, along with those birds go some few Tarzans," says another.

"It was a secret deal done between two governments, which resulted in islanders being hoodwinked out of their homes and from their islands," says Jeremy Corbyn, a member of Britain's Parliament who has worked on this issue for decades. "They have sought ever since their right of return."

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http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/04/16/399845336/hope-builds-for-islanders-displaced-in-shameful-chapter-of-u-k-history

Or you can just remove entire populations . . .

Disappearing are the days when Ramstein was the signature US base, an American-town-sized behemoth filled with thousands or tens of thousands of Americans, PXs, Pizza Huts, and other amenities of home. But don’t for a second think that the Pentagon is packing up, downsizing its global mission, and heading home. In fact, based on developments in recent years, the opposite may be true. While the collection of Cold War-era giant bases around the world is shrinking, the global infrastructure of bases overseas has exploded in size and scope.

Unknown to most Americans, Washington’s garrisoning of the planet is on the rise, thanks to a new generation of bases the military calls “lily pads” (as in a frog jumping across a pond toward its prey). These are small, secretive, inaccessible facilities with limited numbers of troops, spartan amenities, and prepositioned weaponry and supplies.

Around the world, from Djibouti to the jungles of Honduras, the deserts of Mauritania to Australia’s tiny Cocos Islands, the Pentagon has been pursuing as many lily pads as it can, in as many countries as it can, as fast as it can. Although statistics are hard to assemble, given the often-secretive nature of such bases, the Pentagon has probably built upwards of 50 lily pads and other small bases since around 2000, while exploring the construction of dozens more.

As Mark Gillem, author of America Town: Building the Outposts of Empire, explains, “avoidance” of local populations, publicity, and potential opposition is the new aim. “To project its power,” he says, the United States wants “secluded and self-contained outposts strategically located” around the world. According to some of the strategy’s strongest proponents at the American Enterprise Institute, the goal should be “to create a worldwide network of frontier forts,” with the US military “the ‘global cavalry’ of the twenty-first century.”

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/pentagon-new-generation-military-bases-tom-dispatch/

But don't call it an "empire", whatever you do . . .

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