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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:17 PM Jul 2017

If McCain leaves the Senate, the bill could be brought back again

Gov. Ducey would likely appoint someone who WOULD vote for it. Sorry to rain on the parade today, but we have to stay vigilant. This fight may not be over.

Also: 'Freedom Caucus/others are "working on" a new bill.'


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If McCain leaves the Senate, the bill could be brought back again (Original Post) DesertRat Jul 2017 OP
Thanks for reminding me. I had forgotten about health care. LexVegas Jul 2017 #1
You aren't raining on my parade. i assume this will happen. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #2
I doubt it very much...it will be too close to the election. Also, I believe that there were other Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #3
WV, AR, LA, OH, and PA come to mind loyalsister Jul 2017 #7
Toomey had an orgasm when he voted for this Cosmocat Jul 2017 #9
I think Toomey is in his last term. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #20
Yeah, Portman would have been forced to vote no. Notice the moderates were the last to vote. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #21
It is inevitable someday, they want to kill Americans and by god they are going to Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #4
it will take months for mc cain to step down drray23 Jul 2017 #5
I hope you're right. DesertRat Jul 2017 #8
ANYTHING the so-called "Freedom" Caucus writes has the kiss of death on it already. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2017 #6
You forgot this part: "and Rosebud was his sled." FSogol Jul 2017 #10
I don't think Yertle is up to another defeat on this issue. stopbush Jul 2017 #11
All True. But they wanted it done now before Senators went on recess and had to face voters. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2017 #12
Ducey didn't want McCain to vote for the bill, however Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #13
Because McCain is by far the most moderate GOP leader around here DesertRat Jul 2017 #16
Congress is going on August recess. yallerdawg Jul 2017 #14
I disagree completely Justice Jul 2017 #15
Why? DesertRat Jul 2017 #17
Ducey has expressed his discontent with the present bills. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #18
Ducey would have to appoint himself to the position DesertRat Jul 2017 #19

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
2. You aren't raining on my parade. i assume this will happen.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:26 PM
Jul 2017

This isn't over by a long shot. I have been getting emails from MoveOn, Dem. Committee, Indivisible, Change.Org, etc and they know we must remain "vigilant" and hold them all accountable since they will probably try to repeal again. We know that the GOP doesn't ever give up on their evil, self serving agendas. They don't fool anyone.

Resist! Peace.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
3. I doubt it very much...it will be too close to the election. Also, I believe that there were other
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jul 2017

no votes who did not vote no because McCain gave them cover.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. WV, AR, LA, OH, and PA come to mind
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jul 2017

Southern and rural areas have really gotten a lot out of Medicaid expansion. Republican governors in those states are not likely to give up on it easily as it has eased some budget woes.

Cosmocat

(14,573 posts)
9. Toomey had an orgasm when he voted for this
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:48 PM
Jul 2017

The R senator from Pa is a yes vote for whatever fuck wittery team R comes up with 100 out of 100 times.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
21. Yeah, Portman would have been forced to vote no. Notice the moderates were the last to vote.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jul 2017

And of course you can change your vote at the end.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
5. it will take months for mc cain to step down
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jul 2017

this will bring us closer to the 2018 elections. As we get near, nothing will get done as all senators that are up for elections are going to be maneuvering to keep their seats. If it could not be passed now, it will be even worse then.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
8. I hope you're right.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jul 2017

McCain is returning home to AZ to begin radiation and chemotherapy treatment Monday.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,712 posts)
6. ANYTHING the so-called "Freedom" Caucus writes has the kiss of death on it already.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jul 2017

They will not compromise, and this all by itself dooms them to failure.

They do this over and over, with the same results.

They don't know how to govern.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
11. I don't think Yertle is up to another defeat on this issue.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jul 2017

Yesterday was humiliating enough. Rs need to get as much calendar distance between the healthcare defeat and the midterms as possible. Healthcare has become the bad penny that Rs don't need to see again, ever.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
12. All True. But they wanted it done now before Senators went on recess and had to face voters.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jul 2017

That was a big part of the rush. Every time Congress heads home Republicans lose votes for Obamacare repeal. They can't try another move now for months - McCain isn't giving up yet. That gives a lot of time for opposition to Republican plans to build. That is what they tried to avoid.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
16. Because McCain is by far the most moderate GOP leader around here
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jul 2017

The other contenders are far right, conspiracy theory kooks. Google Kelli Ward.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
14. Congress is going on August recess.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jul 2017

McCain will be starting treatment.

September is already lined up with hard votes!

Past due debt limit increase - they'll need Democrats.

2017-18 budget. They'll need Democrats.

Tax reform and any kind of infrastructure programs? They'll need Democrats.

And this Congress is facing primaries and elections over the same period of time.

I believe some bipartisan tweaks to ACA is all they can do.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
18. Ducey has expressed his discontent with the present bills.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jul 2017

He knows full well they would be a disaster for his constituency. He's a horrible person and a terrible Governor. But he's not stupid.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
19. Ducey would have to appoint himself to the position
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jul 2017

Because I can't think of anyone in the Arizona GOP who would vote against it.

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