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beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)enjoy
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)It looks like he thought ahead on this.
Maybe McCain likes presidents who aren't Russian assets.
Break time
(195 posts)Presidents who don't call POW's "losers"
christx30
(6,241 posts)sometimes has consequences?
Now we need to find a way for Miss Universe to screw over trump. I want everyone that he insulted to come forward with some way to get at him. Reince Priebus testifies against him and brings out a filing cabinet worth of documents to help in the impeachment.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...on the part of Senator McCain.
I did not expect this.
IronLionZion
(45,460 posts)it worked out on the rare occasions when he really is a maverick
It was awesome watching him and McConnell exchange dirty looks when he voted no.
And since Donny 2 scoops is never going to understand what happened, he needs to step up his insults against fellow Republicans until more of them turn against him.
This is so awesome
Metro135
(359 posts)And then do it AGAIN.
NotASurfer
(2,151 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)So, I assume they will just do the whole thing all over again.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:06 PM - Edit history (1)
brush
(53,792 posts)Trump doesn't seem to get it. Ryan and McConnell will go with the tax cut try for their once-a-year chance with reconciliation.
I think the ACA will survive while they go for the tax cut.
BumRushDaShow
(129,125 posts)1.) FY18 appropriations
2.) Debt Ceiling
Eddie Munster was able to settle with his side to go with "Minibus" bills that they just passed. But here's the issue with that -
Dead on arrival, Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, and ranking member of the Senate Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Subcommittee, said of the bills chances in the Senate.
The inclusion of the U.S.-Mexico border wall, a signature campaign pledge of President Trumps, seems designed to play to GOP conservatives, but House Democratic leaders urged their caucus to vote no over it. Indeed, the House passed the security bus 235-192, with only five Democrats joining the majority (and five Republicans voting with the minority).
Beyond Democratic opposition, House Republicans have been unable to reach agreement on federal spending for 2018. House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., has yet to advance a strategy for passing the eight remaining appropriations bills, or a budget resolution a document that typically would have preceded appropriations bills.
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2017/07/27/us-house-approves-security-spending-bill-with-16b-for-trump-border-wall/
I.e., they still have to decide on the other 8 appropriations bills AND what they passed will most likely be DOA in the Senate. But because what they passed went above the previously agreed-upon budget, it would supposedly trigger the sequester cutoff (13.2%) for the military spending too (a waiver via legislation being needed to halt that sequester).
You have some kamikaze idiots in the GOP who would probably try to shut the government down to defund the ACA and particularly Planned Parenthood. And the purists among the GOP might also hurl some digs at their own regarding the debt ceiling because they will demand draconian cuts in the budget.
So there will be more misery to come.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Really, thanks Bum...it is so much more complicated than I can ever imagine, It's like trying to keep track of the extended family of my Chinese ex-wife!
BumRushDaShow
(129,125 posts)I don't how much time they will be able to devote to "tax reform" outside of the simplistic way they have approached legislation in the past - throw together a "framework", take some previous legislation and cross out any "taxes" that were imposed for the ACA for example (don't be surprised if they take Obama's "repeal of the Bush tax cuts" to use to repeal the repeal) and then try to do all of this behind closed doors - no hearings, and throw it out there for a vote - including doing it as a rider to a must-pass appropriations bill (although that might require 60 votes in the Senate).
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Do I go into a harmonic, melodic and structural analysis of the last movement of Mozart's Jupiter Symphony?
Things like four-part invertible counterpoint, diminution, chain suspensions...?
Or the fact that the 12 tone row in Webern's SYMPHONY OP. 21 is a symmetrical retrograde at the interval of a tritone...?
No. Of course not. You would alert me and block me.
Truth to tell -- I AM really impressed at how much many folks here know. It is where I get everything....
BumRushDaShow
(129,125 posts)"The Guitar Man".... to mellow out.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,125 posts)about 35 years ago (and had 3 semesters of physics) so could probably follow along...
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)to get healthcare done this fiscal year.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)How Many Reconciliation Bills May Congress Consider Each Year?
Under Senate interpretations of the Congressional Budget Act, the Senate can consider the three basic subjects of reconciliation spending, revenues, and debt limit in a single bill or multiple bills, but it can consider each of these three in only one bill per year (unless Congress passes a second budget resolution). Consequently, in the Senate there can be a maximum of three reconciliation bills in a year, one for each of the basic subjects of reconciliation.
This rule is most significant if the first reconciliation bill that the Senate takes up affects both spending and revenues. Even if that bill is overwhelmingly devoted to only one of those subjects, no subsequent reconciliation bill can affect either revenues or spending because the first bill already addressed them.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)This "Obamacare" repeal show is getting really old by now. All they need is to jump the shark.
krakfiend
(202 posts)then i say thank you sir and madams, that have made it possible. and all democrats voting against it.
Johnny2X2X
(19,069 posts)McCain and his people have been around long enough to know exactly what they were doing.
60 votes means they'd have to work with Dems. Imagine if that happened. Would Trump even sign it?
Jim__
(14,077 posts)I'm wondering if they can sneak this back in under a different topic.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)McTurtle will be back
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,125 posts)which, for example, the mess the House passed this past Thursday, violates.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-112publ25/html/PLAW-112publ25.htm
This is the "sequestration" thing, which will impact whatever they might try to cook up - notably all this defense build-up.