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babylonsister

(171,074 posts)
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 10:06 AM Jul 2017

A White House Adviser Publicly Said What Republicans Wont: Trump Is Failing As President

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/29/adviser-publicly-republicans-wont-trump-failing-president.html

A White House Adviser Publicly Said What Republicans Won’t: Trump Is Failing As President
By Jason Easley on Sat, Jul 29th, 2017 at 10:00 am


The Washington Post reporting on the firing of Reince Priebus contained this nugget:

“I think any observer — including one that did not speak English and knew nothing about politics and came from another planet and solar system — could, after observing the situation in the White House, realize the White House is failing,” said one informal White House adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share a candid assessment. “And when the White House is failing, you can’t replace the president.”

The adviser is correct. One doesn’t need to know anything about politics to understand that Donald Trump is a failing president. Trump is the first president in the modern era to register zero major legislative accomplishments in his first six months when his party controls Congress.

The President controls the message in any administration, and Trump’s inability to stay disciplined and focused on an agenda means that this White House lives in a world of daily presidential sabotage. The White House plans theme weeks, but Trump undercuts them with his tweets. The White House has no policy because Trump has no policies.

Trump is a passive president who wants Congress to do all of the work while he watches Fox News or plays golf every weekend. However, this Congress is dysfunctional and revealed itself to be unable to govern before Trump was elected. Republicans needed a strong president with a clear vision. Instead, they have a weak, disinterested president, whose vision changes from moment to moment.

Donald Trump is a failed president, and Republicans are going to carry that failing president on their backs during the 2018 election. Trump’s incompetence has become so obvious that even advisers to the White House can’t ignore the failure of this administration.
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A White House Adviser Publicly Said What Republicans Wont: Trump Is Failing As President (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2017 OP
Dayum. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2017 #1
#fakepresident supporters are losers Cary Jul 2017 #2
Outstanding. ck4829 Jul 2017 #3
Putin wins again. Golden Raisin Jul 2017 #4
Yup. Gets (almost) everything he wants. lastlib Jul 2017 #17
New, stronger sanctions vs. Russia just passed the House and Senate Mc Mike Jul 2017 #28
Point taken. But...... lastlib Jul 2017 #35
They've gone the exact opposite direction from the one dRUmpf publicly wants, though. Mc Mike Jul 2017 #36
I don't think it's Trump's enforcement duty -- I would expect civil service State or Treasury. byronius Jul 2017 #43
Not really onlyadream Jul 2017 #38
If there wasn't the point of taking the country down with him, I would too. lastlib Jul 2017 #46
A president zentrum Jul 2017 #51
From the perspective of an organizational consultant, Eyeball_Kid Jul 2017 #5
I fail to understand Scarsdale Jul 2017 #18
I've asked myself the same thing PatSeg Jul 2017 #25
I might posit BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #27
Heard some talk on either MSNBC or CNN this morning that Sessions could be moved into that job. calimary Jul 2017 #41
Yeah I've been hearing about the shuffle speculation BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #42
True enough. It's hard to see where a devout lifelong military man would fit in here. calimary Jul 2017 #40
This is just speculation but as a military person, he may feel compelled to try to bring some order. Tatiana Jul 2017 #44
Most interesting point. calimary Jul 2017 #48
Ouch! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #6
25-45*! lastlib Jul 2017 #19
Yes, I agree. He's doing a beautiful job of effing up the GOP brand. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #21
25 86 45! calimary Jul 2017 #58
With Pence waiting in the wings, we should be asking Vogon_Glory Jul 2017 #7
That is exactly what I've been thinking radical noodle Jul 2017 #11
As much as I would like to see the repubs destroyed, pangaia Jul 2017 #13
His numbers go up when he drops bombs flamingdem Jul 2017 #8
What did they expect? LiberalBrooke Jul 2017 #9
It's not just Trump CanonRay Jul 2017 #10
When you're right, you're right JDC Jul 2017 #12
I actually AM getting tired of all the Putin's winning ! Pluvious Jul 2017 #14
Dump is lazy...... dawnie51 Jul 2017 #15
Indeed. tRump has a long track record of his misdeeds. He has run his mouth and given Grammy23 Jul 2017 #23
Goodness. very well said, Grammy23!! yonder Jul 2017 #47
Welcome to DU, yonder! calimary Jul 2017 #50
thanks calimary, glad to be here. yonder Jul 2017 #54
Wonderful post! llmart Jul 2017 #56
Agree with everything. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2017 #16
That statement threw me. onlyadream Jul 2017 #39
Best outcome cilla4progress Jul 2017 #20
I know other DUers have dubbed this "A Perfect Storm" BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #22
I think he believes he can buy re-election with tax cuts, money is the only thing he understands. FreeStateDemocrat Jul 2017 #24
Oh, and of course not fooled Jul 2017 #37
Republicans own this monstrosity now PatSeg Jul 2017 #26
Even the FReaks are splitting with some saying tRump is incompetent. But many think it is 4D chess Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #29
And more importantly DT perfectly represents what a deplorable Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #30
Here's the thing. ananda Jul 2017 #31
Except they do have a solution. They already have more than enough grounds for impeachment pnwmom Jul 2017 #32
What? But Trump was a gift from God! defacto7 Jul 2017 #33
This is not surprising... ailsagirl Jul 2017 #34
We have to hope Mueller and his team work fast! BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #45
Scaramucci can fire everyone in the West Wing including the poor cooks, & it will make no difference Hekate Jul 2017 #49
I agree. Trump himself is the problem. Kaleva Jul 2017 #52
OMG he just described my mother! Generic Other Jul 2017 #53
Fail. C Moon Jul 2017 #55
The Dem Party leadership had better come up with a plan to re-take the Senate! Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #57

lastlib

(23,250 posts)
17. Yup. Gets (almost) everything he wants.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jul 2017

Chaos in American government (won't that be nice in a crisis? Or while Pooty is stealing another major corporation?); Discord within NATO; US inability to craft a coherent Middle East policy; ad infinitum.........

Only thing (so far) he doesn't win is lifting sanctions on him and his kleptocrat friends; but I'm sure that's coming, stay tuned.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
28. New, stronger sanctions vs. Russia just passed the House and Senate
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jul 2017

with overwhelming, veto proof margins.

lastlib

(23,250 posts)
35. Point taken. But......
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jul 2017

I half expect our pResiDunce will enforce them the way he does the ACA..............

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
36. They've gone the exact opposite direction from the one dRUmpf publicly wants, though.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:42 PM
Jul 2017

They're presenting him with quite a pickle. Veto it, pocket veto it, sign it. Doesn't matter, Almost zero repug senators or congress is willing to publicly support his pro russia friendship stance. They're daring him to keep trying to deliver for his master.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
43. I don't think it's Trump's enforcement duty -- I would expect civil service State or Treasury.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 07:59 PM
Jul 2017

Bill Browder's assessment of the impact of these new sanctions was that they were seriously damaging to Putin. As in everything unravels for him now, and he's going to spend all his time just trying to stay out of prison.

Russian oligarch money is about to become toxic. Browder said their accounts are going to be frozen by every bank in the world. If that happens, Putin is no longer the Strongman Protector, he's the Major Liability.

I think we should spend the next ten years fixing Russia's gangster problem. For good. The progressive common-sense Russians who have been targeted with murder and torture for trying to fix things would welcome our help. And that's the best revenge, rooting out every single last little conspirator anywhere that had anything to do at all in the slightest way imaginable with this @$@$% horror.

They need to go.

lastlib

(23,250 posts)
46. If there wasn't the point of taking the country down with him, I would too.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jul 2017

I don't want failure to the extent of hurting American people--or any other people, either.

Humiliate the presiDunce, the GOPee Party, but don't hurt people who have already suffered.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
51. A president
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:46 PM
Jul 2017

...."successful" by Repug terms would take the country down as well. Tax reform in the way they want it will destroy the economy and entrench a deeper income disparity. The environment would be under even more threat from a functional president. A hard working Repug president could even have repealed the ACA. A Pence-like president would end all regulation of industry. Would effectively destroy unions.

"Competent" Repug presidents do things like take us into phony wars like Iraq----which brought on the great recession of 2008. And destabilized the entire middle east.

We are screwed under Repugs whether they do it through shrewd competency or tawdry grifting. Always nothing but rotten except towards the top 1%.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
5. From the perspective of an organizational consultant,
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 10:14 AM
Jul 2017

Trumpy's White House is grossly dysfunctional because an orderly hierarchy of authority is nonexistent. Kelly will find this out immediately, and will then understand how completely futile his position will become. Kelly will NOT have the authority that he needs, and he's likely discovering this right now. He's had a long and rewarding career in the military. He made a massive mistake in getting associated with Trumpy, just like everyone before him. Kelly traded his integrity for a promotion.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. I fail to understand
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:26 AM
Jul 2017

how distinguished career men can align themselves with the obviously mentally unbalanced person in the WH. How can anyone with self respect listen to the drivel this maniac spouts, and keep quiet? Does Kelly need the $$$ this badly, that he will sell his very soul for it? When tRump orders him to kill a fly, will he?

PatSeg

(47,507 posts)
25. I've asked myself the same thing
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017

It is possible that he is truly doing this in an effort to protect the country from the dysfunction in the White House. I really wonder how long he will last.

BumRushDaShow

(129,125 posts)
27. I might posit
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jul 2017

that since DHS controls ICE and "Mexican walls", as well as "Muslim bans" were top priorities that haven't been realized "on day one" or "within the first 100 days", then it is possible Kelly was given an ultimatum, and agreed to a "lateral", perhaps at the behest of some unknown "someone" (maybe McMaster?) to move Preibus out, and have an instant replacement ready (he already has all the clearances). I expect he could also dismiss both Bannon's and Mooch's bullshit easier than Preibus, but I doubt he'll be in there that long either.

The question is who would be nominated as a replacement for DHS Secretary.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
41. Heard some talk on either MSNBC or CNN this morning that Sessions could be moved into that job.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jul 2017

Wonder if that's just rumor or if they figure that's the one safe way around the rules and the consequences of flat-out firing Jeff Sessions.

BumRushDaShow

(129,125 posts)
42. Yeah I've been hearing about the shuffle speculation
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:07 PM
Jul 2017

And I ironically recall similar stuff going on under Raygun with James Baker -

NEW YORK TIMES
BRIEFING
By Phil Gailey and Warren Weaver Jr.
Published: June 5, 1982

Campaign Against Baker

President Reagan recently rebuked Clymer L. Wright, his 1980 Texas finance chairman, for leading what the President called a campaign of ''sabotage'' against James A. Baker 3d, the White House chief of staff, who stands accused by the Republican far right of watering down Reaganism.

Mr. Wright, a Houston lawyer, apparently does not intend to allow even Ronald Reagan to interfere with his campaign to plug the leaks in Reaganism. While the President and his chief of staff are in Europe, Mr. Wright is rallying conservative leaders in Dallas on Tuesday for what amounts to a Dump Baker meeting. The featured speaker is to be Howard Phillips of the Conservative Caucus.

In a recent letter to the President, Mr. Wright described Mr. Baker as ''an amiable, uninformed, lazy, slightly confused politician'' who had undermined Reagan policies. He sent copies to hundreds of early Reagan supporters who, in the words of a source close to Mr. Wright, responded with a loud chorus of ''right ons.''

Mr. Baker's friends inside the White House do not seem to be taking the Tuesday rally too seriously. It is too bad, they are joking, that the gathering wasn't held two months ago, when the air travel it is generating might have saved Braniff from bankruptcy. Of Mercury and Ballet

<...>

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/06/05/us/briefing-186924.html



WASHINGTON POST

Regan, Baker to Trade Places in Major Shift

By David Hoffman January 9, 1985

President Reagan announced yesterday that two of the most powerful figures of his administration, Treasury Secretary Donald T. Regan and White House chief of staff James A. Baker III, will swap jobs in the most dramatic of several personnel changes expected to put a new face on the White House staff in Reagan's second term.

Administration sources also said Reagan has decided to nominate Energy Secretary Donald P. Hodel to replace Interior Secretary William P. Clark, who has resigned to return to his California ranch. An announcement is expected today.

There are several candidates for Hodel's job, including White House personnel director John S. Herrington, officials said. They predicted that Regan would bring in his own team at the White House and said presidential assistant Richard G. Darman probably would leave for a Treasury Department position involving international economics. Craig L. Fuller, another key Reagan assistant, may remain for a while "to help with the transition," officials said.

The president approved the Baker-Regan swap late Monday, the same day it was proposed to him through deputy chief of staff Michael K. Deaver, who also is leaving. Although the president was unaware of it, Regan and Baker had discussed the swap privately over lunch several weeks earlier in Regan's Treasury Department office, officials said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1985/01/09/regan-baker-to-trade-places-in-major-shift/1c640b51-b012-4cbf-9dc8-66bf989ed8d7/


Difference is it took a few years for the above where all this kind of drama is happening in the first 6 or so months.

As a side note - Baker was sitting in the audience of that infamous foreign policy speech at the Mayflower Hotel, so I'm not ruling out that he's in the background somewhere. Not sure who he would interface with given all the novices in the West Wing at the moment (maybe Sessions is a possibility), but he has been there done that.

WAIT - yeah he IS there - found this from Mourning Schmoe - http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-needs-a-strong-chief-of-staff-says-james-baker-957756995792

calimary

(81,323 posts)
40. True enough. It's hard to see where a devout lifelong military man would fit in here.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jul 2017

The military is nothing if not CHAIN-OF-COMMAND conscious. It's built-in. It is sacrosanct. The hierarchy is EVERYTHING. And if this so-called White House is awash with discord and multiple little fiefdoms and power centers and openly hostile and incompatible warring factions - just because the boss somehow likes chaos - this guy will be a VERY bad fit. And he won't last long. For his own sense of self-respect, if nothing else. I can't see how he'll find himself to be a good fit. This madhouse operates counter to EVERYTHING he knows and into which he's put his faith, and has followed to the letter, and under which he's worked his way up the ranks and achieved success and respect, over years and years of military service.

I don't see how he'll be allowed to do it his way, the way he's used to doing it in the military command structure. I just don't see how this will work. Nobody else in there (with rare exceptions) has even served in the military. And they're all basically in it for themselves, while busily genuflecting to The Donald and trying to show outwardly that they're only in it for him. Bullshit. They're all busy trying to build their own power structures and their own individual protection rackets and force fields. They're all most interested in loyalty - that is - loyalty to THEMSELVES and how long THEY can survive in those big-shot White House jobs they still have. They'll say it's about loyalty to the so-called "pResident" (since you bet they know how important that loyalty thing is to him). But it's really loyalty to their own self-preservation.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
44. This is just speculation but as a military person, he may feel compelled to try to bring some order.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 08:13 PM
Jul 2017

My father served in the Army and Navy. He always exhibited an almost obsessive desire to bring order to chaotic situations -- no matter what they were. And honestly, he was respected for having a knack for "getting things in order." He was one of the youngest supervisors after his discharge for a major corporation.

After rejecting the job several times, Kelly may feel compelled to do what he can to turn the disaster that is the WH around.

I don't think he'll be successful, but I can see why he might feel the need to try.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
48. Most interesting point.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:22 PM
Jul 2017

It makes sense. I don't think he'll be successful either, but I would expect someone in the military to have discipline and order and chain-of-command DOWN. Especially someone who's risen to the rank of general. You're very good at hierarchy by that point. Wonder who will give him the biggest problems? "The Mooch"? Jared? Bannon? Ivanka? The people who work with/for a general have to submit to rank and be willing to take orders. I don't see how either one of those three fully complies. ANYONE who claims or insists that he or she has standing open access to the Oval Office is probably loathe to give that up. How it looks to the rest of "the help", dontchaknow.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Ouch!
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jul 2017

"Failing president". I really hope he reads this because it is so spot on. He is a monumental disaster and the sooner the republicans realize that and get rid of him, the better.

lastlib

(23,250 posts)
19. 25-45*!
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jul 2017

(*Invoke the 25th Amendment against Pres. #45) But after reading a post below, I'm agreeing that we should hold off for a little while--let him f*ck up the GOPee brand so badly for 2018 and 2020 that people won't be able to stand another GOPher in Congress OR the presidency.

Vogon_Glory

(9,120 posts)
7. With Pence waiting in the wings, we should be asking
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jul 2017

With Mike Pence waiting in the wings to become 46, the question is how much of Trump is enough to drive voters away from the Republican Party brand so that they don't vote in Pence or another Republican in 2020.

I never thought I'd say this, but I want Trump to stick around long enough to soil all the little interest groups that put him in the Oval Office, and I want the stench to linger through Election Day 2020.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
11. That is exactly what I've been thinking
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jul 2017

Pence will appear to be much better than trump as president, and therefore more likely to be re-elected in 2020. Pence, in many ways, is more dangerous to our human rights than trump.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. As much as I would like to see the repubs destroyed,
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jul 2017

leaving trump in place is too dangerous. If this happens, we will very likely be living in a police sooner than we think.

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
9. What did they expect?
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jul 2017

Trump is who he is and has never grown up or changed. All of the fools who supported or voted for him got exactly what they voted for.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
10. It's not just Trump
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jul 2017

The GOP is out of ideas. They have been for a decade or more. They cannot legislate, they cannot govern. Their only policy is cut taxes for the rich. Period.

Pluvious

(4,313 posts)
14. I actually AM getting tired of all the Putin's winning !
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jul 2017

We, as a nation, have been played.

Worst part is, half our Country, motherfucking STILL, doesn't realize it.

Teh Stoopid, it burns.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
15. Dump is lazy......
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jul 2017

always has been. He inserts himself into the accomplishments of others, but he personally does nothing but rant and rave and bullshit. He has scammed a pretty good living off this MO, but that was while he had the protection of lawsuits and gangster lawyers. Those protections aren't working now, and he is exposed, as the know nothing, do nothing hollow creature that he is. There's no escaping his stench.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
23. Indeed. tRump has a long track record of his misdeeds. He has run his mouth and given
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jul 2017

his opinions about a variety of subjects and revealed who he is and how he operates. The problem is that prior to his entering politics he tended to leave his messes and screw ups behind him on rather small scale. Now he is in a position to cause harm across the world and leave scars that our governing bodies (and those who live on planet earth) will live with for a very long time.

He is ignorant of history and only interested in how he benefits from being in the office he currently occupies. He is quite literally living in one of the most historic places in our country but is seemingly uninspired to know the details of the past for our nation. And you know what they say about those who don't learn from history....

So he goes on about his merry way, making one mistake after another, dumping former minions with no regrets, no apologies. He has destroyed any illusions that he would be pivoting to a more dignified person. That he would somehow transform himself to what we all expect from the person occupying the office of President.

What he has done is bring the office of President down many pegs to a Reality Show. Instead of Pomp and Circumstance or Hail to the Chief, we get a Ringling Brothers version of governance. We have foul mouthed tirades and palace intrigue. No one really knows whose head will roll next. Maybe his loyal fans ACTUALLY LIKE the changes. As for the rest of us, we stand slack jawed at the chaos, the indignity that has invaded the Executive branch. Disgust barely covers it. We look to the members of Congress who can make this go away or at least stop the bleeding only to see they appear no more able to do anything about it than we can. They have the power but refuse to wield it because of their own serious misdeeds and culpability. Afraid of losing their positions if the full details of who brought this nasty infection upon us, they say little and do even less.

We are at a critical stage and I do believe it can't go on at this pace much longer. Every single day brings on new horrors and insults to the very Constitution most of us revere. I don't think waiting until 2018 elections is wise. There is plenty of time between now and then for tRump and his thugs to do irreparable damage to the governing bodies, the economy and the spirit of the USA. He has already done tremendous damage to those things already, not to even mention coarsening our culture to a new low. I just hope that our leaders who are in a position to deal with this problem in a quick, decisive manner will do so.

In the meantime, our work is cut out for us. We must not let them forget for one day we are watching them and taking notes. It will be our job to pay attention to who tries to help and who stands by and watches Rome burn to the ground.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
50. Welcome to DU, yonder!
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:34 PM
Jul 2017

It's a terrible choice to think of making. trump? Or Pence? COLOSSAL ICK, either way. Either way we lose, and 2020 can't come soon enough. But with trump, this gnawing nag of "...he's gonna get us all killed..." keeps prowling through my head. I dread a Pence presidency because he's such a religious fanatic. While I fear the onset of Christian Sharia Law under his tenure, one thought I actually tend not to have is "...he's gonna get us all killed..."

Small comfort, though.

VERY small.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
56. Wonderful post!
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:45 AM
Jul 2017

My thoughts exactly stated in a very articulate way.

I agree with you that wishing to keep him in place so Pence doesn't become President is not the way this should go. For all we know, Pence will go down with him. If we on DU do believe in our democracy and constitution, then we should be doing everything in our power to get rid of him first. He is destroying everything and made the US a laughing stock of the world.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
16. Agree with everything.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jul 2017

Except this:

“And when the White House is failing, you can’t replace the president.”

Replacing this idiot is essential...we HAVE to replace the president. When the presidency fails, so does the country. He'll start a war to get his numbers up, because that exactly who his supporters are. I am also torn between getting him out of there, or leaving him in until his followers get frustrated by that dead chicken they've wired around their own necks (thanks, Molly Ivins! ).

cilla4progress

(24,737 posts)
20. Best outcome
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jul 2017

The GOP is revealed a failed party as currently constituted. Maybe the naked Emperor is not just tRump but the whole GOP.


Sad and frustrating part is the country has wasted a lot of precious time to come to the conclusion progressive have known since 1980; Republicans‘ vision for US is fatally flawed and corupt.

BumRushDaShow

(129,125 posts)
22. I know other DUers have dubbed this "A Perfect Storm"
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:58 AM
Jul 2017

and we are really seeing that now. They are dipping and dodging playing wack-a-mole with their never-ending self-inflicted crises while failing at any type of governance.



Meanwhile the 3-year old in the Oval Office yells at the TV.

?w=255&h=300

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
24. I think he believes he can buy re-election with tax cuts, money is the only thing he understands.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jul 2017

It is of paramount importance to him and he will try to use money to sway a gullible electorate even if it bankrupts the country. An example is the spending bill just passed by the House that is a thinly veiled vehicle to win the veterans vote by throwing money at them and it will probably work.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
37. Oh, and of course
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jul 2017

voter "suppression" = stealing the rights of millions to vote.

dump thinks he can maintain the reich through another term.

PatSeg

(47,507 posts)
26. Republicans own this monstrosity now
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jul 2017

They always knew what he was and they got on board anyway. I think a lot of political career will die over this misplaced support.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
29. Even the FReaks are splitting with some saying tRump is incompetent. But many think it is 4D chess
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jul 2017
A long time ago, in a universe far, far away, Donald Trump was supposed to be a great manager. We were told we should overlook his personal issues, his inexperience, and his unfamiliarity with major policy issues because he was a great manager. A hugely, bigly, El Supremo grade manager. He would get all the best people and assemble a team that would dazzle us.

This isn't the kind of dazzle most of us had in mind.
52 posted on 2017-07-27, 8:36:55 PM by sphinx


Good decision. Maybe the WH won’t look like amateur hour now.

150 posted on 2017-07-28, 7:31:58 PM by Sequoyah101

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
30. And more importantly DT perfectly represents what a deplorable
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

or teaparty person would consider to be a very good and successful president.

Therefore, deplorables, teapartiers, very thought process is deadly to the human race.

And we are surrounded by them.

ananda

(28,867 posts)
31. Here's the thing.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

45 doesn't want to be "president."

He wants to be a totalitarian dictator.

His real agenda is to pack the federal courts with
extreme rightwing judges, and then he can rule
by fiat and just ignore the legislative branch.

The courts will then back up whatever he wants.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. Except they do have a solution. They already have more than enough grounds for impeachment
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:17 PM
Jul 2017

and conviction based on obstruction of justice and ethics issues alone. They just need to have the courage to do it.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
33. What? But Trump was a gift from God!
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:22 PM
Jul 2017

Oh.. I hear a book titile coming....

Saint Donald of God

Hmmm... not so good...

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
34. This is not surprising...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:24 PM
Jul 2017

because we knew, even before he raised his tiny hand to take the oath of office, that he was an abysmal failure and that he would act accordingly. And he has.


BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
45. We have to hope Mueller and his team work fast!
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jul 2017

Also, that they are thorough. If they are then they will get the dirt on Pence and his involvement (and he IS involved) as well as Ryan.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
49. Scaramucci can fire everyone in the West Wing including the poor cooks, & it will make no difference
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:24 PM
Jul 2017

The Mad King is a roiling disaster, and he's going to take everyone down with him.

Honeycombe8

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57. The Dem Party leadership had better come up with a plan to re-take the Senate!
Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:09 AM
Jul 2017

I don't think that "better deal" thing is good enough. It doesn't speak to ME, anyway.

We can't just run on "we're not Trump." That's not good enough.

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