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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:05 AM Jul 2017

Trump will run as an Independent in 2020...

...I've felt this ever since his election. He simply cannot function as an "ordinary" Republican--or indeed, an ordinary anything. He'll go full Perot in 2020--*even if he's impeached and removed from office*. He'll run then to "vindicate" himself, and attack the GOP far more ruthlessly than any Dem would dare to do. And if he is still President, he'll have declared himself an Independent long before 2020, running to represent the "people" as a whole against the parties and "special interests". This might actually be to the country's advantage, since in positioning himself, he could actually make deals with the Dems and the small bloc of sane Republicans to get some rational policies passed. If the Dems treat him with respect--yes, it's stomach-turning, but necessary--we might just get some business done with him.

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Trump will run as an Independent in 2020... (Original Post) First Speaker Jul 2017 OP
You simply cannot trust this man to do anything he says he will do CanonRay Jul 2017 #1
With our eyes open... First Speaker Jul 2017 #3
"If Dems treat him with respect" BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #2
I know--but sometimes, you have to be the adult... First Speaker Jul 2017 #4
True. But this isn't one of those times. BannonsLiver Jul 2017 #5
Repubs will never run him as their candidate in 2020. Either they will ouste him before that or rig wasupaloopa Jul 2017 #6
He'd only do that if it looked like he wouldn't be re-nominated. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #7
Great for us. Squinch Jul 2017 #8
If he lasts that long and does it will be the final split of the modern R party. bullimiami Jul 2017 #9
He and Pence would each get half the Republican vote Cicada Jul 2017 #10
My thoughts exactly. Kleveland Jul 2017 #15
I wish I could add to the conversation - or debate - asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #11
Good that would divide the GOP vote and ensure a Democratic victory. book_worm Jul 2017 #12
Rational Policies? There Isn't Anything Rational About This Kook...... global1 Jul 2017 #13
I truly believe he will either be dead.... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2017 #14
You almost got me... xajj4791 Jul 2017 #16
His party will be.... defacto7 Jul 2017 #17
Then watch one of "ours" also run as Independent, so we can have a 4-way. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #18
Good. It will only split the Republican vote. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #19
"Independent" Turbineguy Jul 2017 #20
This presupposes that #45 is sane. He is NOT. VOX Jul 2017 #21
I just wrote a similar post in another thread before seeing yours. GMTA mr_liberal Jul 2017 #22
I heard he was going to run from a cell in gitmo, using 100% russkie oligarch funding. Mc Mike Jul 2017 #23

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
1. You simply cannot trust this man to do anything he says he will do
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:08 AM
Jul 2017

so how can we get any business done with him?

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
6. Repubs will never run him as their candidate in 2020. Either they will ouste him before that or rig
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jul 2017

the game so he can't be nominated.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
15. My thoughts exactly.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jul 2017

That is, fantasizing that he did run as an independent.

It would fracture the Repug/right wing vote. They certainly are marked now....

You would have/hope to imagine that this would bode well for the Democratic candidate.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
11. I wish I could add to the conversation - or debate -
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:23 AM
Jul 2017

just can't get there....seriously - Dems treat him with respect - ah, nope, respect is EARNED...so

LALALALALALALALA - Eddie Murphy - Beverly Hills Cop

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Beverly+Hills+Cop+Scene&&view=detail&mid=B5AE25C8F6E488F8D02BB5AE25C8F6E488F8D02B&FORM=VRDGAR

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
12. Good that would divide the GOP vote and ensure a Democratic victory.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jul 2017

But if you think that Trump is going to align himself with "sane" republicans and Democrats then you're kidding yourself.

global1

(25,253 posts)
13. Rational Policies? There Isn't Anything Rational About This Kook......
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jul 2017

If he runs as an independent (if he lasts that long) he'll split the Repug vote. He'll pare off the deplorables. The Repugs will get the remainder of what's left to the Repug Party at that time and the Dems will win hands down.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,738 posts)
14. I truly believe he will either be dead....
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jul 2017

Or judged a complete mental case.

We must be prepared for a run...but

 

xajj4791

(84 posts)
16. You almost got me...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jul 2017

Thought this was a serious post. Sorry. At best utter is satire and at worst democrat baiting. What gave you away was saying trump running in 2020 might be too our benefit and that he could work with both sides of dems respect him. Now I know you are just a trump liver messing with us. At no time shoulder democrats ever work with trump. So far the only thing dems and pubs have done together is limit trumps power.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
21. This presupposes that #45 is sane. He is NOT.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jul 2017

The idea that "he could actually make deals with the Dems" is never going to happen. Zero chance.

You might as well wish that #45 "comes to his senses," apologizes to the entire world, and consciously decides to be a decent person who puts himself last, and who only wishes to serve all American people with the fairness, dignity and respect they deserve...

Not. Gonna. Happen.

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
22. I just wrote a similar post in another thread before seeing yours. GMTA
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jul 2017

Ill repost it here:

Trump should govern as an independent because that's what he really is.

Trump is not really a republican and he's never been a conservative.

Instead of continuing the hate on Trump maybe Democrats should try to forge an alliance with him against conservatives. I could see a Trump, Democrat, moderate Republican coalition forming. I think he would be open to it. It'd be a way to influence legislation and supreme court picks. The other way of just hating on him just keeps him in control of the far right.


The supreme court is what matters most and to try to at least get him to replace Kennedy with another moderate Kenney type judge, and the only way to have any chance of doing that is to stop the hate and try to influence him. Ginsburg could retire too.

I doubt he would run again though because running as an independent means he would probably lose. But I could see him creating a coalition and then not running again. The same kind of thing happened with Schwarzenegger. He ran as a conservative and then changed back to being more moderate so he wouldn't be an outcast in Hollywood or with the media.
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