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Cokie Roberts : "There are no Republicans in the White House," "Now we have a Trump White House." (Original Post) sunonmars Jul 2017 OP
And that may be Trump's ultimate undoing. Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #1
Difficult to watch him, they had eyes with Priebus, not now. sunonmars Jul 2017 #2
Pardon my language, but bullshit, Cokie gratuitous Jul 2017 #3
I disagree Saboburns Jul 2017 #5
Agree with Gratuitous, Saboburns, and with you. Hortensis Jul 2017 #11
the best thing that would happen for us, Democrats, and for the country as a whole Saboburns Jul 2017 #13
I'm with you in thinking we need Rump to err big, Hortensis Jul 2017 #16
I think that was the GOP "plan" all along Nevernose Jul 2017 #26
Yes, agree entirely. They used what rebelling voters gave Hortensis Jul 2017 #30
YEP Cosmocat Jul 2017 #14
+1,000 malaise Jul 2017 #31
+ 1,000 - republican party has degenerated to the scuzzbucket morally & ethically Achilleaze Jul 2017 #33
No shit. Just not the Cokie Roberts sort. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #40
Pathetic attempt by Republican Party to disown their satanspawn unblock Jul 2017 #4
++++ JHan Jul 2017 #7
No. Sorry. They don't get to distance themselves from Trump. They nominated him. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #6
THIS Cosmocat Jul 2017 #15
Precisely. He didn't just happen. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #18
And Lyin' Ryan made them swear to secrecy about malaise Jul 2017 #32
Yep. Trump stink is all over them for a reason. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #39
Maybe not in the White House, but the EPA, USDA, Interior, etc etc enough Jul 2017 #8
+1000 bronxiteforever Jul 2017 #10
absolutly...Cokie's sell by date has come... CTyankee Jul 2017 #36
That is definitely not true oberliner Jul 2017 #9
Hey Cokie, what's MIKE PENCE (apart from the obvious) ? Do you have news for us ??? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #12
One of the privileged elite bestowing her wisdom on the masses. jalan48 Jul 2017 #17
well, Trump is a Republican, so there's that fishwax Jul 2017 #19
The GOP owns him entirely. Dawson Leery Jul 2017 #20
Fuck off Cokie Roberts. CottonBear Jul 2017 #21
Oh god, is she still around? NBachers Jul 2017 #22
Cokie Roberts; content free reporting for over 30 yrs. KG Jul 2017 #23
Stop Cokie. You are a total embarrassment to your parents. nt DURHAM D Jul 2017 #24
Bullshit..they may be embarrassed but he is one of them dembotoz Jul 2017 #25
Tax breaks for the rich, LGBT and women's rights, fuck the poor and the environment njhoneybadger Jul 2017 #27
Cokie needs to STFU, really. Iliyah Jul 2017 #28
Looks like the Disownership Society is on a recruiting drive... JHB Jul 2017 #29
Uh... romana Jul 2017 #34
Right. Like all those bigots aren't "real Christians." stopbush Jul 2017 #35
Republicans, you BROKE it; you OWN it. This sounds like the start of a "Keep Congress" campaign. NO WinkyDink Jul 2017 #37
There are no Republicans in the White House when NotASurfer Jul 2017 #38

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Pardon my language, but bullshit, Cokie
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jul 2017

The White House is stuffed to the rafters with Republicans. Each and every last one of them is a Republican, the normal and natural result of Republican policies and practices over the last 50 years. Now that that reeking bag of shit has split its seams and spilled out all over the body politic, the "Republican" label on it doesn't magically disappear.

Trump is the Republican Party and the Republican Party is Trump.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
5. I disagree
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jul 2017

I see the next Act of this tragedy as Trump vs the Gop. I see it as already begun. Which is why I believe that Trump's days are numbered.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Agree with Gratuitous, Saboburns, and with you.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jul 2017

The White House and cabinet are almost entirely stuffed with Republicans, although, true, a majority are Koch alliance and Mercer agents (as are much of Congress and the Republican Party leadership). Even Bannon and his nasty little group are identified with the GOP, though may technically not be part of it.

Then there're opportunist swindler Rump, who couldn't explain what Republican is if you put a gun to his head, and his large percentage of Republican voters, most particularly his personality cultists--the Republican base. And those last are why Rump currently very much also defines the Republican Party, even though the Kochists will win this civil war and almost certainly provide the next, new demagogue for a base eager to be suckered.

Which, of course, brings us to the next act of this tragedy, although imo the tragedy is that they didn't all kill each other off in an earlier play.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
13. the best thing that would happen for us, Democrats, and for the country as a whole
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

Would be for Donald to fire Sessions.

Or fire Bannon.

Or attempt to fire Mueller.

Any of these acts would hasten Trump's demise.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. I'm with you in thinking we need Rump to err big,
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:35 PM
Jul 2017

but even more for the Republican Party to err so big so much that it loses congress in 2018 and the WC in 2020. It may be that ultimately people will not associate their reps with Rump as much as we need them to, and that could be disastrous.

And, with a big except for the extremely serious issues of national security (ours and everyone else's) under Rump, a President Pence would be far more dangerous. He'd work with other Kochist extremists in congress to dismantle our institutions and get a lot accomplished, including control of SCOTUS...

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
26. I think that was the GOP "plan" all along
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:19 PM
Jul 2017

When they realized they were stuck with him, they would use him as their deflection to protect their brand. They always intended to do as much damage as possible in search of some mythical past greatness, but now they can do whatever they want and blame Trump. If that stops working, they'll impeach and go back to blaming PELOSI or THE BLACK GUY (cue scary harpsichord music).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Yes, agree entirely. They used what rebelling voters gave
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:15 PM
Jul 2017

them. And now, of course, they intend to fool the right into blaming Rump for their own actions as much as possible, what they can't successfully glue on the evil Democrats, of course. Rump's so completely out of his depth, he's helpless.

But Charles Koch has loaded the succession with so many allied with his far-right extremist agenda that we could literally have a "Designated Survivor" situation and end up with a Kochist as president. He, his alliance, and others like them are so powerful that, when, for instance, discussing what the party and its leaders are doing legislatively, they are virtually never mentioned by whole networks who pretend to inform us 24/7 about what's happening.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
14. YEP
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

They have spent decades decaying the public forum and created the stupid that got him their nomination and put him in the white house.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
33. + 1,000 - republican party has degenerated to the scuzzbucket morally & ethically
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jul 2017

the current kremlin-dominated White House is the spawn of many years of republican malfeasance. The whole party is morally bankrupt.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
6. No. Sorry. They don't get to distance themselves from Trump. They nominated him.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:45 PM
Jul 2017

They voted for him. They have enabled him.

They own him.

The GOP are using Trump as much as he used them to gain the oval.

They have excused his words and deeds repeatedly. He's new. He doesn't know better. He's just different.

No.

No. No. No. No. No.

Trump ran as a republican. Trump was nominated as a republican. Trump is squatting in the WH as a republican.

There are republicans in the White House.

No one gets to pretend otherwise simply because they don't want to wear the stink.







enough

(13,259 posts)
8. Maybe not in the White House, but the EPA, USDA, Interior, etc etc
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jul 2017

are crammed with Republicans busily going about the business of dismantling the government. Sounds like old fashioned Republicans like Cokie are hoping to deny Republican participation.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
19. well, Trump is a Republican, so there's that
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jul 2017

You built this, republicans. It's your doing. You broke it you've bought it.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
20. The GOP owns him entirely.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jul 2017

They put him there.

See, this is what conservatives do, they always blame someone else for their deeds.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
21. Fuck off Cokie Roberts.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jul 2017

She's spent years shitting on Democrats on NPR and on TV.
She's a Republican propaganda mouthpiece.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
25. Bullshit..they may be embarrassed but he is one of them
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:15 PM
Jul 2017

All the thuglets in the house and Senate voted his way.
If not for 3 senators if would b a done deal

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
28. Cokie needs to STFU, really.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:26 PM
Jul 2017

Republicans and WH go in a deranged "harmony". t-rump wants total control over the GOP and that's why he is attacking them.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
29. Looks like the Disownership Society is on a recruiting drive...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jul 2017

You backed him, you bought him, guys. He didn't come out of the blue, he thumped every drum you've thumped for 50 years.Just because you don't like his style doesn't mean he's not one of you.

And a reminder: This is twice in a generation where a Republican squeaked into office on an electoral win but popular vote loss, and then proceeded go full-bore on shoving through an agenda stuffed with their pet projects. WITH the full backing of the Republican Party. No "moving to the center", no finding consensus, just grabbing power with both hands.

It is a thoroughly Republican White House now.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
37. Republicans, you BROKE it; you OWN it. This sounds like the start of a "Keep Congress" campaign. NO
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:44 PM
Jul 2017

DICE.

NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
38. There are no Republicans in the White House when
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jul 2017

When the current and temporary resident of the White House calls on the mob to vote out all the current Republicans in the House, Senate, and any Governors who failed to sing hosannas to the king in a manner that pleases him. He'd have to declare war on the party.

Regardless, they'd still own the whole steaming pile of pure trump, and are going to be held accountable!

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