If you can't distinguish between the US and NK then I don't know what to tell you.

at risk. There can never be any circumstance in which it would be necessary to use that many nukes. We then give one man authority to end our species. Where is our moral authority?

It's meaningless to argue about something that simply doesn't exist in the real world.

as we haven't nuked each other; I'm less sanguine about the ability of a certain fat kid in North Korea being able to exercise that same level of impulse control.

smoking. I can always say I haven't died from smoking, until I actually do die from smoking. It isn't a very good argument and doesn't take away the unnecessary threat. And let's be more concerned about what we are told to worry about, like we were told to be scared of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. This is just a diversion, and people will die because of our arrogance.

And yet one only country has used nuclear weapons during a time of war, the other hasn't. Anything beyond that is simply conjecture and prophecy.



"I'm less sanguine about the ability of a certain fat kid in North Korea being able to exercise that same level of impulse control..."

Odd that; I feel the same way about a certain fat kid in the White House. However, if your confident in the ability of Trump to think both rationally and critically in these matter, more power to you and your codeine.

Morality is a social construct rooted in culture and far from universal. Moral high ground won't keep your head above water in a flood. Practicality has to come before morality. That being said, one should always strive for both whenever possible

arm themselves against that and Donald Trump?

'Moral authority' is not objective, it is subjective, and only exists in our minds.

Little Kim will have 3 whole generations of a dissident's family sent to concentration camps to be starved, tortured, used in weapons testing, and to have medical experiments conducted on them. He had his own half brother assassinated in an airport with a WMD(VX nerve agent). He spends nearly the entire GDP on weapons so he can threaten the world, and meanwhile his people are starving to the point where cannibalism is becoming common place in NK. He has people who offend him fed to dogs or shot with AAA pieces.

1-Is this REALLY a guy we want to have nukes and a delivery system capable of reaching mainland US? We basically lose any ability to deal with the problem if that happens. Then what? Do we just let NK continue to terrorize the world for another few hundred years?
2-Somethign will eventually need to be done about the NK situation, and waiting longer will just make the problem worse.

Are you happy, and do you think other people in other nations are happy, to give a man like Trump the authority and the ability to end the human species? Where is our credibility? Our moral authority?

And that's saying something.

"And that's saying something..."

It certainly is saying something... though that something lacks any objective evidence to support its premise. In effect, little more than a bumper sticker above the truck nutz.

The only difference is that Kim has had longer to do this crap to his country. Give trump some time and he will get there also.

I don't disagree that we need to do *something* but I don't know what that is. And my confidence in our "President" to know what to do and to do the right thing is somewhat less nowadays........

And I'm not that old. We've murdered a thousand women and children with drones in the last six months. We have nuclear missiles pointed at Nortb Korea, and then wonder why they'd want their own?

That's not defending Crazy Mr. Kim, that's pointing out that maybe they're not so inclined to listen to violent, war-mongering hypocrites, and I can't really blame them for it.

Which is the only country to actually use them?

It is US nukes that should scare us all.

That is something to think about.

suggest it is heading that way. Rex Tillerson is saying we need to try to reach a peaceful agreement, while we have a president with a twitchy Twitter finger saying something else. Moral authority would be in the form of saying our long tern goal should be to eradicate nukes, and try to reduce them along with Russia, as we have seen with previous presidents. Ask the citizens of 196 nations if they think Trump, generally hated around the world because of his own despicable rhetoric, if he has the moral authority to be able to press the button at his own discretion.

out that it takes a president to launch our nukes, do you?

In as much, if NK deployed a nuclear missile that targeted anywhere, wouldn't other nations including the US vaporize NK before their missile hit it's target?

Malaise is correct.. We are the only nation to have destroyed civilians with a hydrogen or nuclear bomb. With the nut in the WH, why wouldn't other nations including our allies, be prepared to launch their own.

Our citizens also have a horrible record when it comes to domestic violence. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to address the abuses of women by other countries or cultures.

people in other nations think about Donald Trump, a man who frequently goes into a Twitter rage, who insults other leaders, who sticks his fingers up to action on climate change, whose divisive rhetoric has been played around the world, ask if people in other nations think that a man like Donald Trump (on behalf of America), on the one hand can be given the power to end all human life at his own discretion, and on the other hand tell other nations, hostile or not, that they can't defend themselves. It is like a drunkard behind a wheel telling other drivers not to drink.

I imagine many of them feel just the way I do about him. I'm not going to stop fighting the good fight because of Trump or where I was born. There is no acceptable rationalization for that kind of argument.

game in which if it goes wrong we just play it again. Or maybe you think it is a good thing somebody as deranged as Trump can kill us all.

Good day kind sir.

If the citizens of our own nation have a problem with somebody like Trump having unfettered access to 7000 nukes, then we do not have the authority or credibility. If we cannot police ourselves because our institutions are weak, how can we police others?

think (in America).

if they actually had nukes. I suspect most countries view them as a necessity.

We better learn how to deal with other countries with nukes, even if it means "paying" them.

No, practical authority? Yes.

70,000 were made in total for the USA, in over 60 different types.

I think we have more than 7,000 of them left.....

Or is it China, S Korea, Japan, the UN Security Counsel etc?