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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,060 posts)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:17 PM Aug 2017

Republicans wonder: Can we govern?

Republicans are questioning their ability to govern following seven months of constant turmoil capped by the dramatic failure in the Senate to advance ObamaCare repeal.

GOP lawmakers already face serious divisions over the two biggest items left on the agenda: raising the debt ceiling and reforming the tax code.

The problems underscore how moving on from healthcare won’t necessarily solve the GOP’s problems.

“What we have to be able to do is demonstrate that we’re capable of doing hard things,” said Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Thune (S.D.).

“Healthcare reform is hard. Tax reform is hard. We’ve got to pivot now to tax reform and get an outcome.”

The party has no easy way out on the debt-ceiling dilemma. With Republicans in charge of Congress and the White House, the party will get the full blame if it fails to hike the borrowing limit and financial problems ensue.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/344884-republicans-wonder-can-we-govern

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eleny

(46,166 posts)
2. When they have to ask they have to know they've lost it
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:25 PM
Aug 2017

Those gears started turning to dust at least as late as the '90s. All they can do to hold on to power is cheat their way to prevail in elections. That's the gear they keep in motion and they're damned good at it.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
3. The two parties perform differently in their roles as either governing or opposition party.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:27 PM
Aug 2017

Republicans perform well when they are the opposition party; but they are ineffective when they are the governing party.

Democrats perform very well when they are the governing party; but they suck as the opposition party in most situations.

Currently, we're in a situation where both parties are performing the weaker of the two possible tasks. Hopefully the country doesn't collapse before we are able to reverse those roles.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
5. "Get an outcome...."
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:41 PM
Aug 2017

It doesn't matter to the Republicans if it is a good outcome or not. They just want some sort of outcome to demonstrate that they can do something more than obstruct. It's not looking good, though. They're going to have an internal deadlock on both raising the debt ceiling and tax code reform.

The far right "freedom caucus" will demand that the debt ceiling not be raised and tax reform should be limited to simply whacking away at taxe rates and eliminating programs of all kinds, except, of course the military.

The rest of the Republicans will want something that is more or less feasible, so there will be deadlock. Nobody in the GOP wants to work with Democrats on any issue, so we'll just keep having deadlocks.

The Republicans cannot govern. They can only disrupt governance. That's the reality.

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