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Can any President attach a signing statement to a veto proof bill? (Original Post) malaise Aug 2017 OP
I'm pretty sure they can. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #1
Can? Yes. rock Aug 2017 #2
he can attach a signing statement to any bill, or his tie, or his hair, or his ass. unblock Aug 2017 #3
Thanks malaise Aug 2017 #4
It is intended to give cover zipplewrath Aug 2017 #6
Sure, but the signing statement doesn't become part of the law. hedda_foil Aug 2017 #5
W did these all the time Hokie Aug 2017 #7
It was put there to sooth Putin. Autumn Aug 2017 #8
A signing statement has little if any weight if challenged in court Gothmog Aug 2017 #9
 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
1. I'm pretty sure they can.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:08 PM
Aug 2017

I don't know why it being veto proof would make a difference when it comes to signing statements. If I remember correctly Obama did a number of signing statements.

http://www.coherentbabble.com/listBHOall.htm

unblock

(52,261 posts)
3. he can attach a signing statement to any bill, or his tie, or his hair, or his ass.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:13 PM
Aug 2017

it carries no real legal significance. a court might pay attention to it somewhat akin to the way they sometimes pay attention to congressional intent, so it might carry some influence, but there's nothing binding about it.

it really doesn't mean anything more than whatever throwaway words a president says at the signing ceremony.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
6. It is intended to give cover
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:20 PM
Aug 2017

The point of them is basically putting congress on notice that he intends on interpreting it differently than they suggest. As such, it is seen as giving him "cover" for impeachment. It can also be a way of influencing any Supreme Court arguments. "Intent of Congress" is often considered in SC decisions. The thought (never tested) is that a signing statement permanently indicates the "intent" of the President when signing. They hope that influences the court and there is even some thought among some Federalist types that an SC court rule a law "invalid" because the presidents assertions in a signing statement indicate that if it had been known that those assumptions were invalid, then the president wouldn't have signed the bill.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
5. Sure, but the signing statement doesn't become part of the law.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:16 PM
Aug 2017

Of course the creep will try to act like it does. There's no way he has the mental capacity to realize that the fancy legal argument he signed Ian's holy writ.

Hokie

(4,288 posts)
7. W did these all the time
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:30 PM
Aug 2017

I believe they carry no legal weight except they might be used as evidence in case a president fails to carry out a law and gets taken to court.

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