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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump says banning immigrants helps US workers. A leading economist says hes wrong.
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/3/16090042/immigration-reform-donald-trump-stephen-millerby Sean Illing at Vox
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It is indeed intuitive to people that when there are more workers around, wages drop. But thats a bad cartoon of how complex the economy is. I think its also intuitive to people that workers and firms adjust to changes in the labor supply in myriad ways. US workers respond to there being more workers around by moving to where theres more opportunity, by going into business for themselves, and by specializing in tasks that use their strengths, like native English ability.
Women in the US respond to the presence of low-skill immigrants by entering the labor force, because immigrants make child care and elder care more accessible. Firms respond to there being more workers around by shifting toward production technologies that use labor more intensively, by moving plants from one place to another, and by producing in new ways that allow natives and immigrants to specialize in different tasks.
These complex adjustments are very intuitive to Americans out there who depend on low-skill immigrants caring for their kids, preparing food in kitchens, guarding buildings, shipping fresh vegetables. So I think when people stop to think about it, the intuitive thing is that immigrants fuel the US economy overall, creating more opportunity for US workers than the jobs that they take themselves. And that has been true for many, many generations in this country.
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I would add that all those jobs in the 'service economy' depend on a growing population at home.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)whole point isnt that it would or even become law in the first place
Trump is about to be shown to be a traitor, for real, he wants to shore up support in advance of that and he will get it.
Wounded Bear
(58,717 posts)marybourg
(12,635 posts)created by immigrants forming families, buying houses, everything to fill the houses, baby stuff, cars. In the 3 states I've lived in - very different from each other - young immigrants were a huge part of the economy.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Wisconsin. Walker and the GOP have this ridiculous belief that if you deport or not allow any Emigrants, then all those slackers on Welfare will be able or forced to take a job. Thus eliminating the Welfare Programs in Wisconsin. Oh btw,this will cause the State not having to provide any Health Care cause all those working people will be able to provide Insurance coverage on their own. When a State Assemblyman explained in his own words how GOP plans to provide for all the State Residents.
You can choose your friends but you are crap out of luck when it comes to Relatives. And this Guy is a Cousin. Duh.