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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMatthew Whitaker of CNN - "Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far"
"This information is deeply concerning to me. It does not take a lawyer or even a former federal prosecutor like myself to conclude that investigating Donald Trump's finances or his family's finances falls completely outside of the realm of his 2016 campaign and allegations that the campaign coordinated with the Russian government or anyone else. That goes beyond the scope of the appointment of the special counsel."
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html
Hey, Matt....
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)that he had nothing to do with other than buying a few acres.
It least in Trump's case a line can be drawn between Russian loan money and Russian interference in our election to help him win.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)Because it lets republicans frame things based on how the wind is blowing to their favor regardless of how much it contradicts what they were screaming about one second earlier.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They like to say they are the party of Lincoln, but if Abe was alive today, he most likely would be a rabid Democrat.
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)they have come to truly believe it ...
ANYTHING is justified in the riteous effort to defeat the evil liberal boogyman.
VMA131Marine
(4,148 posts)And when did he become a right wing shill. It seems to me that if the special prosecutor sees evidence of a crime, he has a responsibility to investigate it regardless of whether it is connected to his original mandate.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)So I guess he was a right wing shill some time before that.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)A little worried!
rurallib
(62,447 posts)greeny2323
(590 posts)He's an idiot of course and paid by CNN to write that opinion piece, but he's not "of CNN" in the sense of being a journalist or a reporter. They publish opinions.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)And this was the top result.
Which is why CNN needs to stop giving a platform to assholes like this.
Just my opinion.
Quixote1818
(28,967 posts)That's kind of relevant why he would be colluding with Russia and that wouldn't even be a fishing expedition. It would just be following the money.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Specifically the part about "any matters that arose or may arise"
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)as freely as possible. This fella is mistaken. Somebody please educate this moron
spanone
(135,870 posts)orangecrush
(19,616 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:09 PM - Edit history (1)
Are crapping their linens now!
WoonTars
(694 posts)Now fuck off.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)FACT is a much newer creation, organized in 2014 as a conservative counterweight to watchdog groups viewed as more left-of-center, such as Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. The newer outfit took its first public action about a year ago when it filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission against Democratic voter data firm Catalist.
Since then, FACT has, on rare occasions (possibly just once), gone after a Republican, but most frequently accuses Democrats particularly frontrunner and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of ethical or legal violations.
Its funding $600,000 in 2014, according to the only tax return it has filed to date comes entirely from a conservative donor-advised fund called DonorsTrust, which means it could come from anywhere. DonorsTrust is a pass-through vessel that manages the charitable contributions of wealthy individuals and foundations to organizations that are dedicated to the ideals of limited government, personal responsibility, and free enterprise, according to its website, while allowing the donors to remain anonymous. Charles Koch is among the many conservatives who have filtered money through DonorsTrust.
In other words, an organization dedicated to promoting accountability, ethics, and transparency gets 100 percent of its funds from a group that exists mainly as a vehicle for donors to elude transparency.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)Wish CNN would have put that link in the introduction to the article, so the average reader could see that this guy is NOT impartial.
ismnotwasm
(42,005 posts)It's a bunch of verbiage with nothing to back it up. A bone.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 7, 2017, 12:11 PM - Edit history (1)
He is completely full of crap, nothing to back up his claims at all.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)is outside the purview of a president. So fuck you!
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)Someone must have somebody at CNN by the curlies, is all I can figure out.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)It absolutely would be a part of a pattern that shows motive.
Course this clown has no wish to acknowledge that has been going on for decades.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)But for some reason, CNN gave him a platform, which considering Trumps attacks on the free press, disappoints me deeply.
MrPurple
(985 posts)They've taken the full brunt of Trump and the alt-right attacking them as fake news and the label has stuck with a lot of Trumpanzee zombies. Why do they continue to employ Trump stooges on their "panels"? No one who likes their being there is watching your network and they annoy the fuck out of everyone else.
LudwigPastorius
(9,167 posts)the buried mail he's been stealing.
"Yeah, let's just let that go. That's not why we're here boys."
Squinch
(50,999 posts)here it is. Guy hasn't got a clue what Mueller is investigating, because no one does, but he's "deeply concerned" and sure its illegitimate.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)If Trump is deeply in debt to Russia, it provides a motive and quid pro quo for him getting help to win and in turn helping Russia.
We absolutely need to know Trump's financial debts and who he's laundering money too. These Republicans need to shut the heck up.
If Clinton were being investigated, they'd sure as heck support investigating every little minute detail of her life.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)And that damn article is still at the top of Google results for a "Trump" search as of 1 minute ago.
Something stinks.
Are they trying to grease the rails of public opinion for when Trump tries firing Mueller?
Sure looks like it.
Quixote1818
(28,967 posts)So why the hell would he not look there?
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)and why would it not also be out of the realm of possibilities that Russian monies didn't filter into RNC coffers?
TEB
(12,875 posts)orangecrush
(19,616 posts)A&M 45 rpm!
Vinca
(50,303 posts)Russia didn't just happen to muck with the election. They didn't just happen to pick Don as their favorite. Someone's been bankrolling the Trump organization and it hasn't been American banks. A first grader could figure out the connection between Russia and Trump's finances.
orangecrush
(19,616 posts)Great post!