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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUgh, I just had it out with my neighbor
He was insisting that Hillary Clinton is corrupt and we are better off with #fakepresident.
Such stupidity.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Maybe he will move when you put out your Democratic political signs.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Weird.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)it's telling you something. If your spouse gets overly angry when you accuse them of cheating, they probably are.....
bluepen
(620 posts)😀 Kidding. (Sort of.) Hope the rest of your evening is pleasant.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Thanks. You have a good evening too.
Quanta
(195 posts)Keep it locked and loaded (as far as information goes), but just stay calm. You can always show him to the door if he refuses to hear your side, but you should NEVER feel like you can't express your opinion. Especially if you are on your own property!
apkhgp
(1,068 posts)He is liable to be washed down the sewer along with 45. We do not want to lose you.
TEB
(12,920 posts)My neighbor is trumptard
I have no tolerance for the lies. That seems to.really piss some people off.
Was telling me the other day that Obama and Hillary colluded with Russia how come we never hear about that. I said maybe because it is not true he responded oh it is true , I tell one dude at work where in the shit is your tin foil hat he received roll of aluminum foil from me as Christmas gift. I'll say to foreman Eddie can't start work he does not have his Alex jones headgear.
Ugh ugh ugh.
Leith
(7,813 posts)Why, after at least 6 separate congressional investigations, nothing like that was found. Was it because the rethugs conducting the investigations were so embarrassingly incompetent? Or was it because there was nothing to find?
Them's the choices.
TEB
(12,920 posts)For stupid bull lies crap.
dalton99a
(81,636 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)This guy lost it.
azureblue
(2,154 posts)who have wrecked America.
ksoze
(2,068 posts)bhikkhu
(10,725 posts)I ignored on facebook before the election, but still drop in now and then to see if things have changed...not changed at all. Still daily screeds hating on Hillary, its almost like a mental illness, a tribal chant, or an itch they just can't stop scratching. Ugh is about all you can say, and walk away.
Initech
(100,108 posts)Well maybe not a mental illness, more like a brain infection that attacks the very specific area of the brain that rationalizes thought. Anyone can be infected with this virus, and it will turn the most seemingly normal people into flat out animals. It's insane to watch people get bit by this bug. I've seen friends get bit by this virus - once seemingly normal people get bit, and they turn into full on Infowars level conspiracy theorists.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Initech
(100,108 posts)My dad has this friend of his from college. Guy is a bioengineer with 3 degrees and a PhD. Owns a business worth millions. One of the smartest guys I've ever known. Except when it comes to politics. He's a batshit crazy, off the wall, fundamentalist Christian conspiracy theorist who hates Hillary Clinton, and thinks that they're being persecuted because people aren't worshipping baby Jesus in public enough. How does the GOP attract that kind of mindset? I want to know!
lunasun
(21,646 posts)The ones that mix it in with Jesus are even bigger idiots
I have never personally known a trumpery type as a friend . Workplace or in public yes and even before trump I would think republicans were dumb or greedy sneaky
I am sorry , divisive but I am being honest.
Were your friends smart independent and happy people of the world types before they turned or just functioning followers , hanger on types ? Counter culture or straight lace? Honest folk or greedy get mine types?
Inquiring mind wants to know .
Closet bigots , about POC and gays ? or is this trump thing what spurred that too?
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)by Jacques Ellul
You'll see what I mean
I read it in a Social Foundations of Education class, of all places
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The constant lies, changing positions, and failures are starting to get to them. He's trying to convince himself that his dream (our nightmare) is still valid.
Cary
(11,746 posts)That's the pathology, and ultimately the downfall.
will drive you crazy. Eventually, they get so lost in their lies and so detached from reality, that it drives them nuts or they do something really stupid...
Skittles
(153,219 posts)he hates Hillary more than he loves America
send him this:
http://www.alreporter.com/2017/08/04/remaining-trump-supporters-arent-favors/
Thanks.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)When Don the con goes down, see what his opinion is then. When he's down, make him eat those words
UTUSN
(70,762 posts)Xolodno
(6,406 posts)Two actual examples.
1. Friend of mine who says he isn't a right winger...but totally is. "Illegal aliens cause our insurance rates to go up". I told him, no they don't, and if we were legally allowed to charge by income, race, etc. white guys like us would be paying more, I work in the insurance industry. He refused to believe that. So I told him this, note he lives in a "red-neck" type of area... "how many people do you know would say, hold my beer and watch this while operating a vehicle"...that shut him up.
2. A neighbor said that people on welfare cause our insurance rates to go up. Which surprised me considering, she and my wife volunteer at a food bank/distribution for the poor. So, again, with my insurance background "no they don't". She looked at me and said "how?". One, they almost never make a claim, their vehicle is usually so old and dinged up, the insurance company would call it a total loss pay them a grand and walk away. They have to find another vehicle in decent condition and it won't be a grand. Next, most welfare recipients don't have a vehicle and take public transportation. What drives up the rates is the guy or girl in the 30k+ plus car talking on their phone and plow into the person in front of them because they weren't paying attention. Haven't hear a word about that since.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)If corruption is such a big issue to some on the right, then why aren't they up in arms about the obvious, deep and longstanding corruption of 45, particularly by the Russians? Typical logic failure from a Republican.
azureblue
(2,154 posts)I'd ask, so you know you're backing a known con man and swindler. That says a lot about your integrity and honesty.
Cary
(11,746 posts)He is allowed to have his irrational loathing of Hillary Clinton but I am not allowed to deplore the lies.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)better
(884 posts)I too have a neighbor who is neck deep in the right wing media bullshit, and all that that entails. And yet, you can see in how he treats the people around him, people with whom he actually comes face to face, that his politics and his morals are at complete odds with one another. This is what I'm talking about when I say that by far most Republicans are actually decent, though tragically misinformed, people.
The problem is the fact that Republicans have very well figured out that all politics is NOT local, and in fact it can be very successfully used to manipulate people's perceptions about groups and interests that are specifically not local. Not a lot of Muslims in rural America, so it's a lot easier to manipulate the perception of Muslims in those areas, because most people who live in those areas don't actually know any Muslims, so they lack the benefit of personal experience that runs contrary to the narrative they are fed. Try peddling that shit in Metro DC where you're going to encounter people of all faiths, races and orientations just walking to the neighborhood coffee shop and it's not going to fly with the vast majority, because since it's about something that is local, people know better from their own experience.
It's that divide, people who actually have the experience to make it clear when they're being fed a line of bullshit versus people who only have know what they are fed by the media they consume, that really defines politics in this country. One of the things that struck me about my neighbor is the degree to which his ignorance is the result of him not having internet, which means that the only points of view he is ever going to see or hear are those peddled by someone who owns a radio or television broadcast system.
We too often take for granted the ease with which those of us capable of making it to this website are able to ascertain whether what's being said is true or complete bullshit.
Cary
(11,746 posts)It's cosmopolitan and he is way outnumbered.
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)#15. "Id rather have a fool in the White House than a Crooked Hillary. (The original was Id rather have a crook in the White House than a fool ... but close enough.)"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029413006
Cary
(11,746 posts)Redlineoverdrive
(16 posts)favors for money, nothing could go wrong with that concept.