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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:47 AM Aug 2017

The purity problem

All of this discussion of purity is kind of odd.

On one level there can be no purity "test" because there is no place in which to enforce it. First of all states run these things, not the national party. And really, anyone can register and vote as a democrat. Anyone can register and RUN as a democrat and there really is no place to execute a test.

Now, on another level, an organization such as Move On, or the DSCC/CCC can and do have their "purity tests" in choosing whom they will back fiscally. Always have. Rahm infamously used his time in the DCCC to exclude candidates he considered "too liberal". He even went so far as to influence other people and organizations not to fund candidates that failed his purity test. Presidents have had theirs as well in deciding who to campaign for. Most use it to "enforce" adherence to a particular legislative agenda or even a particular piece of legislation. Congressional leadership has their tests as well, and committee assignments can hang upon them.

So the question isn't so much about having purity tests, it is about who gets to have them. At the end of the day, every voter has them. Every organization has them. It mostly boils down to the kinds of consequences that "failing" the test should generate. Oh, and apparently, who gets to openly discuss these tests. Because like so many things associated with purity, apparently we generally don't discuss them "in public".

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The purity problem (Original Post) zipplewrath Aug 2017 OP
Interesting Post Me. Aug 2017 #1
All this talk of Democratic purity is a crock of $#!t meow2u3 Aug 2017 #2
it comes down to a binary choice Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #3
More to do with money zipplewrath Aug 2017 #4
The purists believe you CAN enforce it... brooklynite Aug 2017 #5
Or funding them zipplewrath Aug 2017 #6

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. Interesting Post
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:52 AM
Aug 2017

and you are so right about Rahm. As you must know, his purity test included kicking Howard Dean to the curb.

meow2u3

(24,768 posts)
2. All this talk of Democratic purity is a crock of $#!t
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 10:57 AM
Aug 2017

It's all coming from the repukes and the russkies, designed to provoke infighting among Democrats. Don't fall for this propaganda!

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
3. it comes down to a binary choice
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:18 AM
Aug 2017

Vote for the democrat and get support for most if not all democratic party stated goals.

Don't vote for the democrat and get the consequences of republicans in power will all of their anti-democratic goals.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
4. More to do with money
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:45 AM
Aug 2017

Money is pretty much how every organization expresses it's "purity test", whether it is the DCCC or it is Move on. Voting is an entirely different issue and voters have their own purity tests and there isn't much you can do about them if they are not openly discussed.

brooklynite

(94,685 posts)
5. The purists believe you CAN enforce it...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:49 AM
Aug 2017

...by refusing to vote for the "impure" candidate, even if the Republican opponent would be far worse.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
6. Or funding them
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:52 AM
Aug 2017

Enforcement of purity tests far more often involves defunding campaigns, or removal from committee assignments.

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