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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 06:53 PM Aug 2017

Trump Admin on Your Right to Vote: Use It or Lose It

Cheaters gonna cheat, every way they can!

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/trump-administration-on-the-right-to-vote-use-it-or-lose-it/
The Justice Department backed Ohio’s effort to purge voters who sat out a few elections.
Ari Berman --- Aug. 8, 2017

The Trump administration redoubled its support on Monday for efforts to remove people from voter registration rolls, siding with the state of Ohio in a case that could allow states to cancel registrations for voters who fail to cast a ballot over the course of several elections.

The Justice Department released an amicus brief in the case, currently before the Supreme Court, over whether Ohio can continue to remove “infrequent voters” who fail to cast a ballot over a six-year period. One of those voters, Larry Harmon, is a lead plaintiff in the lawsuit brought by Demos and the ACLU of Ohio. The 60-year-old software engineer and Navy veteran voted in 2008 and then returned to the polls for a local referendum in 2015, only to find that he was no longer registered, even though he hadn’t moved or done anything else to change his status.

The brief is not the administration’s first action that could lead to voter purges. On June 28, the same day President Donald Trump’s election integrity commission asked for sweeping voter data from all 50 states, the Justice Department sent a letter to 44 states informing them that it was reviewing their voter list maintenance procedures and asking them how they planned to “remove the names of ineligible voters.”  Vanita Gupta, the head of the department’s Civil Rights Division under President Barack Obama, called the letter “virtually unprecedented” and “a prelude to voter purging.”

In the Ohio case, a federal appeals court ruled in September that that state had violated the National Voter Registration Act, a 1993 law that made it easier to register at the DMV and other public agencies and stipulated that voter-roll maintenance “shall not result in the removal of the name of any person from the official list of voters registered to vote in an election for Federal office by reason of the person’s failure to vote.” As a result of that ruling,  7,500 people who would have otherwise been purged were able to vote in the 2016 election, including Harmon.

The Obama administration backed that position, but the Trump administration has now reversed course. ..............









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Igel

(35,337 posts)
1. Makes it sound like Harmon was permanently disenfranchised.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:05 PM
Aug 2017

And, again, I'll say that if not for this kind of purge I'd be eligible to vote in Delaware, New Jersey, Maryland, New York, Oregon, and California even though I've lived in Texas for 13 years and haven't been to Oregon since 1991. And in Oregon I'd be eligible to vote in two different districts, and in Texas in two different districts.

Cool. 9 different ballots.

My father would still be registered in Maryland and Arizona. He died in 2010.

And my brother would be a voter in Maryland, Nevada, and Arizona. He moved to Arizona in ... 1972? 1971?

I have kids in my classes who have in the last couple of years lived in different places in Houston, sometimes more than 10 miles apart. Their parents would be registered to vote, if they registered, in 3, 4, 5 places since just 2012.


The question isn't, "Do you remove voters who haven't voted?" The question is, "How long's enough before you purge them?"

Otherwise, the question is, "What do you make of a voter turnout of 33% because 12,000 people voted out of the 36,000 people on the voter pollbook in an area with a census population of 33,000?"

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
3. You can remove voters who have moved w/o infringing the rights of people who are still residents.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 07:42 PM
Aug 2017

If the Russians can micro-target registered voters on an individual basis on social media, you would think we can ensure that registered voters are not removed without proper cause, and lack of voting is not proper cause.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
5. Cue the right wing talking points on DU.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:26 PM
Aug 2017

I remember getting piled on by people who thought it was just hunky dory to require birth certificates to register to vote - and that such a requirement wasn't discriminatory, didn't cost anyone money, and wouldn't disenfranchise anyone. Not so much, anymore, since by now most people recognize the real ID movement for what it is. Now we fight the routine purge movement until people recognize it for the right wing crap that it is.

You are only eligible to vote in the district in which you live. Period. It is not illegal to be registered in multiple districts (although most districts now have a check-off box so that when you register in a new location it notifies the old). It is only illegal to vote in multiple districts. As to your father, there is a significant difference in using the event of a death to remove someone from the roster than using a gap in voting to do so.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
4. So, is that all levels of voting or just the presidential elections?
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:10 PM
Aug 2017

If it is all levels I may be in trouble. For the first time in years I did not vote for the last town elections last month. They were almost ALL repukes and the ones who claimed to not be repukes are in favor of trump. Was I wrong to not vote if the ONLY choice I had were those in favor of trump? I mean I do live in a red county.

brooklynite

(94,698 posts)
6. Yes, you were wrong...
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 11:29 PM
Aug 2017

...you could have written in yourself, or anyone else who met your standards.

I haven't missed an election I was eligible to vote in (from President down to school board) since I turned 18 in 1977.

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