It is this same scenario that churns my stomach. Societal collapse, temporary or otherwise

Will starve just like the rest of us.

Why not wait 4 years?

...and, as we've already seen, in the conflict between these two nuclear war-heads, nothing is worse than losing face by backing down.

What they could/would/might do is not buy any more debt and sell the debt they own on the world market thus raising our cost of borrowing.

Much appreciated.

You're welcome.

We have allowed hate and lies to be broadcast 27/7 in this country for decades. Now we and the world are going to witness AGAIN what the end results of fascist right wing propaganda brings.

Is there any hope for humanity when we allow the same evil to flourish and grow strong, time and time again?

and could actually nuke us.
Little Putin laughs to see such sport.
His investment in dumbass Trump is paying off, bigly.

NK is unlikely to launch anything that lands close to the US or US territory. China does not call in debt. US doesn't pay anyway.

A less likely but plausible scenario is NK launches something that the US shoots down. Both sides "win".

Trump has finger on the button.
I hope you are right.

i fear trump more than North Korea

Trump has the advantage of superior nukes and a bunker. He doesnt care about liberals on the coasts.

only his own a$$.

tRump is not well and needs to go ASAP.

dealing with a disturbed individual, and one that is a narcissist and possibly has dementia going on. That said, my hunch is this will get worse, not better. However, Kim does not want NK destroyed and does not want to lose power. Kim, is likely to be the more rational of the two.

something like this.
Big mouth, braggart, piece of shit vile person.

It will be a financial Armageddon.

The credit markets will seize completely, regardless of Federal Reserve action.

rich trump bastards will think why the hell was i for this asshole

God knows what follows.....trump doesn't have a clue or a care

Then we are not just talking about folks dying 'over there'

Not nukes.
If they ise nukes on South Korea, it is game over for the planet.

The fueling would be seen by satellite. The US would be unsure if there was a warhead,
and would respond. He knows that. Like a TV pundit said today, Kim has been at this
game a lot longer than Trump, and knows his shit a lot better than Trump.
I truly don't believe he will launch at Guam. He is dicking with Trump.
He is trying to position himself for the upcoming negotiations.

gotta wonder huh?

But with tRump, we have another problem. He is not stable. What he will do is anybody's guess. We Have to hope that someone has charge of this situation and can stop him before he brings nuclear annihilation upon all of us. I vacillate between an eerie calm and abject despair. Something needs to happen to intervene and stop this nightmare. He is NOT making us feel any better.

Lil' Kim and Trump are trying to have a sword fight with their dicks,
but can't seem to make contact.

were to do something as stupid as a missile launch
at Guam said missiles would most likely be shot
down way before reaching their targets.

The US doesn't need to respond further but if it did
I think conventional weapons would do the trick.

I know the Nok's have a lot of artillery aimed at Seoul
but I would hit them with MOAB's and other bunker
busters. I would also be telling China they need to
"deal" with Kimmy and do it right now. Make a point
that we did not use nukes.

Though I have no way of knowing I'd assume China has
several moles in Kim's High Command just waiting for the
coded word to give him a case of lead poisoning.

Kimmy is an annoying insect. He needs to be swatted.
Or something.