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To Those Who Want Proof That They REALLY Are Nazis: (Original Post) kpete Aug 2017 OP
FUCK THEM ALL. spanone Aug 2017 #1
republican betrayal of American democracy & American ideals Achilleaze Aug 2017 #2
Are these knuckleheads organizing on social media? GusBob Aug 2017 #3
Likely a Trump voter/supporter! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #4
And... blogslut Aug 2017 #5
Jared? SCVDem Aug 2017 #19
So much ugliness. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2017 #6
Perhaps Trump will reassure us that tourism in Charlottesville will increase TENFOLD! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #7
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #10
Nice malaise Aug 2017 #29
I didn't need any such proof. But I'm glad you posted this. Paladin Aug 2017 #8
Maybe none lsewpershad Aug 2017 #9
a real tough guy.... dhill926 Aug 2017 #11
Simply A Deplorable OutaHere Aug 2017 #12
I always suspected cilla4progress Aug 2017 #13
Considering they called the event "Unite The Right" . . . ET Awful Aug 2017 #14
Scary. Ironic, tho, since their leader Trump is a draft dodger. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #15
Confederate flag supporters proudly associate with nazi flags www.tinyurl.com/mcdkd9m keithbvadu2 Aug 2017 #16
Fine specimens of the master race dalton99a Aug 2017 #17
Has it occurred to them... Nevernose Aug 2017 #20
I'm sure that they're unabashedly proud of the racism FiveGoodMen Aug 2017 #25
It's not about "pride in heritage" if you want the Nazi flag flown with the Confederate flag. haveahart Aug 2017 #18
I hope that all these pics of these asswipes are out on social media jovibennett Aug 2017 #21
To be followed by a good old-fashioned cloudbase Aug 2017 #22
I am just sick Timmygoat Aug 2017 #23
Apparently, we fought WWII just so that the Nazis that rule us FiveGoodMen Aug 2017 #26
And/or Russian oligarchs WinkyDink Aug 2017 #40
Quoting Hitler *AND* carrying a pocket Constitution! Lovely! Initech Aug 2017 #24
Nazis and confederates MFM008 Aug 2017 #27
Deluded piggish idiot hate-mongering motherfuckers. raven mad Aug 2017 #28
Holy hell, don't they teach world history in schools anymore?? Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #30
Short answer: No; no, they don't. In fact, a mere 15-20 years later, the sons and WinkyDink Aug 2017 #33
How can they skip the World Wars?? Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #34
1965: My World Cultures class studied Asia. I did do a report on the Battle of Leyte Gulf, but the WinkyDink Aug 2017 #35
I was a few years after you, but here in NY 10th grade was World History Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #38
Wow, I retroactively envy you your h.s. education! I even wanted to be a history teacher, but that WinkyDink Aug 2017 #42
Ah! Obviously requirements are different in different states Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #43
This is all making me physically ill. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #31
Yes, there actually is the American Nazi Party. With candidates. Some of us WinkyDink Aug 2017 #32
To wear actual Nazi and Hitler themed regalia is so shameful PufPuf23 Aug 2017 #36
It's all about their very disturbed vision of America, that White Males are downtrodden, are WinkyDink Aug 2017 #37
you hit nail kpete Aug 2017 #46
The American Nazi Party is legal, and always has been. There can be no "nipping" WinkyDink Aug 2017 #39
People can be members of the American Nazi Party PufPuf23 Aug 2017 #41
I totally agree with your last sentence. But you don't know about the second-last sentence. And WinkyDink Aug 2017 #44
Two of 3 or three of 4 is not bad ... PufPuf23 Aug 2017 #45

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. republican betrayal of American democracy & American ideals
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:29 AM
Aug 2017

is the crime of this century. All this alt-whitey Nazi hate on parade is a heinous anti-American disgrace. The republicans - led by their ignoble, lying Draft-Dodger-in-Chief - own it, and have shit it out upon the nation.



Paladin

(28,257 posts)
8. I didn't need any such proof. But I'm glad you posted this.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:50 AM
Aug 2017

I'm getting really, really tired of my country being shit on like this. Armed Nazis at Thomas Jefferson's university? How much more of this garbage are we supposed to take?

cilla4progress

(24,733 posts)
13. I always suspected
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:08 PM
Aug 2017

Americans would want their own flirtation with fascism. Let's hope it doesn't last.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
14. Considering they called the event "Unite The Right" . . .
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:12 PM
Aug 2017

If Republicans don't denounce the event, they are tacitly admitting that they are onboard with the white nationalist motivations for it.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
20. Has it occurred to them...
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:42 PM
Aug 2017

...that both of those flags not only represent racism, but LOSERS. Those are the people who lost their wars.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
25. I'm sure that they're unabashedly proud of the racism
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:26 PM
Aug 2017

And they don't acknowledge that they lost the war because they don't think it's over yet.

 

haveahart

(905 posts)
18. It's not about "pride in heritage" if you want the Nazi flag flown with the Confederate flag.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:35 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:24 PM - Edit history (1)

It's just plain racism and hate.

jovibennett

(120 posts)
21. I hope that all these pics of these asswipes are out on social media
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 01:17 PM
Aug 2017

and that maybe just maybe their bosses will see what kind of person they hired and fire their asses!! That is if any of them actually have jobs in the real world and don't work for their daddies who are probably there also. More pics of these people to get out circulated.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
23. I am just sick
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 01:48 PM
Aug 2017

I am sick to my stomach, I remember WW2, and all my family's friends who went off to fight the Nazis, many did not come back, I lived in the UK, as a child I lived through the nightmare of German nightly bombing raids. Thousands of brave Americans also went to fight the Nazis and also did not return, seeing the Nazi flags on display today who did not suffer the nightmare just made me feel sick, this would be like a kick in the stomach to US families who lost family , everyone should go to see the WW2 cemeteries in Europe, look at the headstones, some little more than children, all who had mothers over here who had lost them. Go to Ardennes, Normandy, Luxembourg, Cambridge. They are hallowed ground and bring a tear to the eye when you visit.I do not understand why Swastikas
can be displayed, I do not know if they are even allowed in Germany.
This is Trump's America, it was also 1930's Germany.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
26. Apparently, we fought WWII just so that the Nazis that rule us
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:34 PM
Aug 2017

would have American accents and not German ones.

Sorry to break with all the constitutionalists, but I think fascism should be off-limits, world-wide.

It should not be an option. It should not be tolerated. It should not be granted free speech.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
27. Nazis and confederates
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:36 PM
Aug 2017

Both LOSERS.
Both the gop base.
This is what America has come to in the age of
Donald J. Maggot.

Rhiannon12866

(205,366 posts)
30. Holy hell, don't they teach world history in schools anymore??
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:59 AM
Aug 2017

I thought that even grade school kids already knew that "Hitler" and nazism were universally regarded as evil as it gets...

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
33. Short answer: No; no, they don't. In fact, a mere 15-20 years later, the sons and
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:35 AM
Aug 2017

daughters of returned veterans didn't learn about them either. I recall reading about our enemy the Soviet Union, though.....

Today, "Social Studies" is all about themes.

If students learn about any war, it's the American Civil War. In excruciating and boring detail. At least, that's true where I once taught.

Rhiannon12866

(205,366 posts)
34. How can they skip the World Wars??
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:38 AM
Aug 2017

10th grade World History covered them pretty thoroughly when I was in school.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
35. 1965: My World Cultures class studied Asia. I did do a report on the Battle of Leyte Gulf, but the
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:52 AM
Aug 2017

war per se wasn't a "Unit."

11th Grade: U. S. History. I don't remember getting past the aforementioned Civil War. I try to ignore the subject to this day, for fear of being bored to death.

12th Grade: "Problems of Democracy (POD)": We studied the workings of the Federal government, "How a Bill becomes a law," etc. We learned the Cabinet members' names (1966-67). Plus, we were taught about our Labor Movement history and its leaders. That was good.

And the danger of the USSR. I did a report that year on their failed "Five-Year Agricultural Plans."

But I simply don't recall having any school lessons on Nazism and/or the European Theatre. What I learned as a child and teen came from my father and the history books we'd borrow from our city library.

Rhiannon12866

(205,366 posts)
38. I was a few years after you, but here in NY 10th grade was World History
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:12 AM
Aug 2017

And 11th grade was American History. I still remember the MAIN causes of WWI - Militarism, Alliances, Imperialism and Nationalism. Mr. Sullivan would be proud of me.

For my term paper I did a report on Hitler. We already knew that he was a horrible human being, IIRC, I tried to figure out what caused him to behave as he did.

And, of course, I remember hearing about the war from my grandmothers. My paternal grandfather died young, so my grandmother took a job in the Office of Price Administration. And my maternal grandparents ran a small grocery and had to deal with rationing.

As for the USSR, they were regarded as the biggest threat during my childhood. I actually visited there during the final days. I accompanied my grandmother and her peace group - they had a sister city - and I was initially scared to death! It really was an enlightening trip, people are people and they want the same things we do - and the Russian people are terrified of war, having experienced the horrors of WWII especially on their own turf. There are monuments everywhere and it's studied heavily in schools. Even the school we visited in our small "sister city" had a special museum where children were expected to learn about the war and those students who were lost were commemorated on plaques on the walls. I feel very bad for what they're experiencing now, there was a lot of hope that things were changing under Gorbachev.

Isn't history still a main subject - along with math, English and science?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
42. Wow, I retroactively envy you your h.s. education! I even wanted to be a history teacher, but that
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:24 AM
Aug 2017

was based on my own reading, not my texts.

And visiting Russia! I concur; the people are among the world's most long-suffering (Feudalism began here, as did the pogroms against Jews, as "Fiddler" depicts. And of course, starvation, the Gulags, etc.), unto today, as they are robbed blind of resources.

But your "World History" was not my sophomore "World Cultures."

And remember: ALL public school history/Social Studies textbooks are published in and must conform to the editorial decisions of.... TEXAS.

Rhiannon12866

(205,366 posts)
43. Ah! Obviously requirements are different in different states
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:45 AM
Aug 2017

Here in New York, history is - or was - one of the main subjects taught and we have Regents exams at the end of the year that you have to pass. World History was my second best at a 92, got a 93 in biology and a 90 in English that year. Don't ask me about math.

As for Russia, I grew up just assuming the Russians hated us. When my grandmother first asked me to go - they needed 17 to make the trip and people kept dropping out - I thought she had to be out of her mind. I actually had a panic attack on the flight over. I only went to make my grandmother happy.

So it was a pleasant surprise that the Russians we met were so welcoming. They seemed pleased to meet Americans, though Reagan was not popular there. He was seen as making things tougher for Gorbachev who was trying to institute reforms. This was just before the Reagan-Gorbachev meeting in Reykjavik and I still get a lump in my throat remembering one older Russian lady - who had been a nurse during WWII - who said "When you go back, please tell your president that we want peace!"

I still think of some of those people - the kids we met at the school (who welcomed us with flowers) - and wonder how they're faring now.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. This is all making me physically ill.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:10 AM
Aug 2017

I feel like throwing up. I can't believe things have gotten this bad. It's horrifying.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
32. Yes, there actually is the American Nazi Party. With candidates. Some of us
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:33 AM
Aug 2017

remember Lincoln Rockwell.

The price of democracy.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
36. To wear actual Nazi and Hitler themed regalia is so shameful
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:01 AM
Aug 2017

and hostile to so many good people.

They should be condemned and it is hard not to wish harm upon their souls.

They have lost their seat for civil discourse and are against egalitarian freedoms.

USA institutions and law enforcement best treat them as disruptors and terrorists of social order and the Constitution.

This movement should have been nipped in the bud.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
37. It's all about their very disturbed vision of America, that White Males are downtrodden, are
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:11 AM
Aug 2017

forgotten, are left out of those Social Programs that give champagne and caviar to undocumented immigrants.

What they forget is that they hated school, hated reading and learning, and never sought to make something of themselves.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
39. The American Nazi Party is legal, and always has been. There can be no "nipping"
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:14 AM
Aug 2017

in our Constitutional Democracy.

I'm sorry, but that's how the US rolls.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
41. People can be members of the American Nazi Party
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:18 AM
Aug 2017

Nazi Party members or not, they do not have the right to be violent and physically bully others.

Most of those "demonstrators" are not American Nazi Party members.

They are violent anti-American and hateful thugs.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
44. I totally agree with your last sentence. But you don't know about the second-last sentence. And
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:42 PM
Aug 2017

of course, violence is illegal as well as immoral (well, unless it's a declared American-involved war, heh), so only a brain-damaged person would disagree with your first sentence.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
45. Two of 3 or three of 4 is not bad ...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:18 PM
Aug 2017

my thought that most were not American Nazi party members is because actual voter registered American Nazis are few and most of the White Supremacist demonstrators are Trump voters and if registered are mostly GOP.

I tend to state the obvious (at least in my feeble mind).

The "nipping" mentioned above was the nipping of the violent and bullying form of demonstration. However repugnant the fascist modern Nazis have rights to free speech and assembly in our system but they do not have the right to be violent nor bully or interfere with the freedoms of others.

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