FUCK YOU TRUMP

YOU ARE TEARING THIS COUNTRY APART

was sticking to the alt right line.

Right down to Lee Washington comparison and saying alt left

His view that there was "violence on both sides" would be more correct.

That is a separate issue from the white supremacy stance. Bigotry, white supremacists, the KKK, neo-Nazis....that's a totally different ball game.

like Neera Tanden as a way to equate those to her left with the "alt-right" movement. Because standing up for single-payer health care is just like being a Nazi. So unfortunately, we have our own side of the aisle to thank for giving the right that particular piece of ammunition.

No alt-left, like alt-right...violent, bigoted, etc.

Yep, right you are.

Because wanting a $15 an hour minimum wage and single payer healthcare is just like invading Poland

I think it's pretty apparent that the messaging has actually been coming from Breitbart all along.

It's tossed about around here like rice at a wedding.

just as much as The Donald does.

That's probably because I've never baselessly smeared Dems and didn't believe all the Hillary scandals and spread them. Those are the actions that get some "smeared" with the label and IMO rightly so. And those aren't the reasons Trump is using it. He's co-opted it for his own ends.

Told him those were of the "alt-left" last weekend attacking the "fine people", in C'ville i.e. neo-nazis.

Those were their commie, alt-left outfits they wear when they want to get violent.

"you people" and I saw it." I would have bet anything that he was lying out his ass, as usual, but he spoke with such conviction and it was so easy to prove one way or the other I thought "would he really just make this up"?

I didn't see a lot of footage from C-ville, but I did not see ANY counter-protesters charging with clubs. Can anyone verify whether there is any truth at all to what he said? If this is a complete fabrication, then what he said today is even more obscene than I thought when I first heard it.

For some reason, the popular media don't remember Trump's delusional statements of things that never happened.

And though I don't really agree with their approach, its pretty hard for me to condemn it.

The guys beating on the phychopaths car were probably antifas. They always show up to fight with the racist shitheads. Their hearts are probably in the right place but throwing shit/piss and vandalizing and burning things is not helping.

That's not the same thing at all.

Someone did say that someone on the left hit a reporter who was filming the car incident. That's a bummer. She was doing what reporters do.

So there was SOME violence by the left, but not what he was describing.

I'm not familiar w/the antifas so will have to look them up.

AFTER he had mowed people down, I have seen ZERO footage of them doing anything to his vehicle prior to that. I'd beat on the fucker's car, too.

They get called, "Far-left", but I don't know what they are. They are anti-fascist, but they are anarchists. They often wear black and cover their faces. (Although in the hot weather I noticed their bandanas had fallen) And wearing all black is very hard in hot weather. They were armed with sticks and shields. They are not afraid to confront. They throw things. I saw a butane flame thrower. They were physically brawling with some of the alt-right people.

Not Democrats, as a group.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

So there was another violent group there, besides the fascists. Although not the same morally, and they were there only as a response to the initial threat of white supremacists.

They aim mainly to destroy property, not attack people, the article says. Which they don't view as being violent.

The WS honk a loud bull horn, then all hell breaks lose on both sides. Then it is hard to tell one side from the other. The guy that threw the newspaper stand was identified as a counter protester.

alt-left, this is tRump/Bannon/Miller influence to sucker us all in. We have some wicked vile people in the WH and in these hate groups, and a so called pResident who is a fascist and is fuelling the fire.

Mueller keep on investigating.

But I understand that according to alternative facts, it was more violent than the Bowling Green Massacre.

Oh, and some people (not naming names here) didn't have a permit.

Link to tweet

There were times when I could not tell the neos from antifa. I didn't see clubs but they all had flags and were hitting each other with the flag poles or sticks, and throwing crap at each other and pepper spraying each other. I have no idea who started it. Normally I'd say the neos started it but with antifa in the mix either group could have escalated.

When the car hit the crowd, one guy broke the cars back window with a bat, which is fine by me and understandable, but the fact remains he did have a bat. So some people did have "club" type weapons. I did not see anyone "charging with clubs".

White supremacist kkk types always start trouble and would have in this case even without antifa, but it probably didn't help having antifa there, as they usually start trouble everywhere they go too. I'm not saying they're the same or worse than the neos, just that they (antifa) are trouble makers in their own right.

If you want to say "anti-fascist" then say it! It's not that hard.

I imagine the right wing will be using that word a lot in the near future like "alt-left".

They call their group an Antifa. They are not Democrats, necessarily. They are far left & attach to certain ideologies, regardless of the political party. They self-describe as property-destroying, but they don't consider that violent. That's what the quotes in the article state. "Antifa" may be a general TYPE of group, with there being different "Antifa" groups, sounds like.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

Since when did antifa become a cuss word?

Antifas should be cheered - they're the ones working to give Nazis the facial-structure rearrangements they deserve!

James O'Keefe and some other thugs were supposedly going to dress up as Black Bloc protesters and cause violence at the inauguration in hopes that it would be pinned on black bloc/antifa and other left wing groups

but I guess the transcript says "em".

It is illegal to assault someone, if not in defense. I understand it. But it is, actually, illegal to assault people, IF that's what happened, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that's what happened.

He was shot at:

“At first it was peaceful protest. Until someone pointed a gun at my head. Then the same person pointed it at my foot and shot the ground.”

I stood with a group of interfaith clergy and other people of faith in a nonviolent direct action meant to keep the white nationalists from entering the park to their hate rally. We had far fewer people holding the line than we had hoped for, and frankly, it wasn’t enough. No police officers in sight (that I could see from where I stood), and we were prepared to be beaten to a bloody pulp to show that while the state permitted white nationalists to rally in hate, in the many names of God, we did not. But we didn’t have to because the anarchists and anti-fascists got to them before they could get to us. I’ve never felt more grateful and more ashamed at the same time. The antifa were like angels to me in that moment.

That was the closest to clubs I've seen.