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mucifer

(23,545 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 10:04 PM Aug 2017

Al Franken's remarks today:

From his facebook page (I don't think it's a problem to repost the whole thing if it is tell me and I will edit it.)


In March of 1861, the Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens delivered a speech outlining the reasons Confederates were going to war, and explained the vision of the government they were seeking to create.

He said, "The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."

And he continued: "... the great truth [is] that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

The Civil War and the Confederacy were about slavery. Period. I was reminded of this speech when Mitch Landrieu, the mayor of New Orleans, used it earlier this summer in powerful remarks he used to make the case for removing those monuments in his own city.

Statues erected to memorialize Confederate leaders in the Civil War—men like Robert E. Lee—suggest that this part of our history is something worth celebrating. It is not.

The people who descended on Charlottesville were there to protest the moving of a Robert E. Lee statue and assert their belief in white supremacy. The hatred and bigotry on display from these white supremacists and neo-Nazis are so universally repugnant that Republicans and Democrats on every part of the political spectrum swiftly and sharply condemned it.

But Donald Trump didn't.

The fact that white supremacists and leaders in the KKK have roundly praised what the president said in his press conference today says something pretty horrifying. Donald Trump is unwilling to condemn people who are wistful for the days of slavery—America's original sin—and who came to Virginia armed with makeshift shields and clubs.
I sincerely hope that in the wake of the failure of this president to assert any moral leadership, Americans from every corner of this country will come together to say that these people and this mindset are morally repugnant. And that hatred and violence have no place in our country

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Al Franken's remarks today: (Original Post) mucifer Aug 2017 OP
Well done Senator Franken. longship Aug 2017 #1
He is a man volstork Aug 2017 #2
K&R defacto7 Aug 2017 #3
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #4
K&R...Thanks Senator Franken spanone Aug 2017 #5
I've always been a huge fan of comedy, Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #6
K&R dae Aug 2017 #7
K + R Raastan Aug 2017 #8
K&R. lunamagica Aug 2017 #9
K&R tweeted yuiyoshida Aug 2017 #10
Good for Al Franken. PatrickforO Aug 2017 #11
Stephen Colbert has mentioned on his show... More_Cowbell Aug 2017 #12
Thoughtful, articulate, well-written. Everything Trump is not. Shrike47 Aug 2017 #13
Thanks for reposting this! summer_in_TX Aug 2017 #14
Well done Al amuse bouche Aug 2017 #15
Robert E.Lee knew damn well he was fighting for his bottom line. oasis Aug 2017 #16
Tell it like it is, Al! Nitram Aug 2017 #17
kick spanone Aug 2017 #18

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
6. I've always been a huge fan of comedy,
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 11:40 PM
Aug 2017

even as a child watching the Ed Sullivan Show. I never dreamed they would one day seem to be the smartest of us and could very well have the skills that can save our country.

Not the politicians, not the military, not the clergy, not the scientists, not the philosophers. But it may be the lowly court jester that saves us all.

I know I damn well thought during the Summer of Love that music could save us.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
12. Stephen Colbert has mentioned on his show...
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:43 AM
Aug 2017

That his home state, South Carolina, said openly in its declaration of secession that it was seceding because of slavery.

I admire Al Franken and would vote for him for anything. But I think it must be a little hard for people from the south to admit why their states seceded, so I wanted to throw in a plug for Stephen!

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
14. Thanks for reposting this!
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:48 AM
Aug 2017

Excellent! It's harder to fudge the truth about the Confederacy with the words from the mouth of one of those involved in trying to promulgate it.

Why on earth do they celebrate a heritage of insurrection in the service of an immoral cause? Confederates despised America and fought to leave it. Honoring them in any way, shape, or form is anti-American.

I remember sobbing inconsolably not long after 9-11 on my first encounter with someone whose pick-up was covered with the rebel flag - because at the time when most Americans were drawing together, those folks were celebrating those who tried to overthrow and divorce America.

oasis

(49,387 posts)
16. Robert E.Lee knew damn well he was fighting for his bottom line.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:52 AM
Aug 2017

He was no better than a traitorous mercenary.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
17. Tell it like it is, Al!
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:02 PM
Aug 2017

The Confederacy was about slavery above all. They laid out their ideology and justification for secession for all to see. No attempt at revisionist historical whitewashing by American Nazis can change that. They used a statue of Lee as a pretext for open violence against Jews, African-Americans, and anti-racists of any kind. We kicked their butts, and they will no longer be welcome anywhere that freedom and free speech has meaning.

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