with your ideals. Far more than the hateful alt-right. Any politicians who wish to side with tRump should be taken out of office. They are elected to represent ALL people, not just nazis and Russian sympathizers. tRump is as ugly inside as he is outside, and that ladies and gentlemen is U_G_L_Y.

I would add that Mr. President needs to look at the horrible viral picture showing people knocked up in the air by this murderer's car. On either side of the car are peaceful signs. To the right you can see one sign of the "Alt Left" that simply says "Love" and on the other side of the car a sign says, "Black Lives Matter." BLM was founded to state that black lives are just as important as any other. They are fighting for EQUALITY. The Alt Right are fighting and demanding SUPERIORITY over everyone else. That is the key difference.

The Alt Right are playing the victims, not personal responsibility, which is supposed to be a mantra of the Republican Party. They are wearing boots, tell them to grab their boot straps and yank!

n/t

Me too, Jon.

the alt-left is anyone not in sync with the alt-right, aka the haters, white supremicists, KKKers, etc.

and so on..

I'm a staunch supporter of single payer and have never had anything to do with the alt-left nor have I been called a member.

you don't get around much..

of the Antifa. Seems like Antifa may be a type of group (self-described) groups consider themselves. "An antifas group" one leader described his group.

Personally, I don't know. Here's that article:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

It could be that alt-left is a derogatory term coined by the right. I thought it was an alternate term for Antifa, but maybe not.

Yes thank you for giving us a name.
Thank you for uniting us.
We will be one, one that you will never beat down.

That is exactly how I feel, so yes, count me in.

Everything that is written here is true for me, but I don't want to be called "Alt-Left."
That name doesn't mean anything, and it implies acceptance of the term "Alt-Right."
False equivalence!

The opposite of Nazi is not Democrat and it's not Alt-Left either.
The opposite of Nazi is "normal, sane free-thinking person."

Just sayin' - thanks for listening.

Just fuel for false equivalence and both siderism

The alt-right named themselves, I choose not to be labeled by their ilk along their naming convention.

Alt-right came about in an attempt to sanatize their vile ideology and make it more palatable to a new generation. Democrats, progressives, liberals don't need their reputation cleaned up and their true motives obscured.

Now that the alt-right name is being exposed and repudiated, they need something on the other side to repudiate in a simple equal dog whistle way.

That transcends political party affiliation to me, it also transcends directional labels as well.

We all know who is on which side, and the OP and the POTUS's statements make that crystal clear.

The "Alt-Right" started calling themselves that because they don't want to be called what they really are - neo-Nazis.
Now they want to justify their terms by calling resisters (us) by a falsely equivalent name - Alt-Left.

None of this makes sense because these names don't mean anything. So we need to keep calling them Nazis or neo-Nazis and make sure everyone understands that's exactly what these Trump supporters are.

The opposite of Nazis are normal, sane free-thinking people. We're liberals and we're Democrats, but we're not "Alt-Left."

Thanks for listening!

Makes sense...the alt-right are the evil players and the alt left are the good.

there have been folks using this term for months now to smear a certain sect of the left.. it has been well documented.. and the right just picked it up from them.. it is now a useful tool for the right on their false equivalency gambit.. unfortunately

And yes they(the Nazis & bigots of this country), created the "alt-right" term, the media went right along with their re-branding which has been dispicable (of the media).. just like they went along not pointing out how muh of a bigot Trump was & always has been during the campaign..

I'm a Democrat and that's all there is to it.

thanks

I am with Heather Heyer.

I've been told this not only by the President, but a variety of other people on the internets..

"alt-left" expression and shove up his a$$.

He is so fucking delusional. No names should be given to us we are Americans, fuck him.

Alt-left. Pffttt

for this shit for years.

Which is often very vocal elsewhere

is deafening.

Not a single rec, not a single reply.

Same goes for a similar thread by kpete.

NYT - "There is no such thing as the 'alt-left.'"

Gosh... you should read something both vague and nefarious into that, and then cower behind implication rather than stating outright your actual convictions.

Never-mind, I just noticed you did.

But that doesn't mean I shouldn't call it like I see it. The term "alt-left" has been used recently on DU to further divide us - which weakens us. It's a matter of record who has been using the term, and has not recced or otherwise responded to these two threads.

Calling out their divisiveness is not a cowardly move.

Your claim of avoiding TOS doesn't mean you aren't dividing like crazy. You think people like being compared to neo-Nazis?

I have compared nobody on this site to the Neo-Nazis, nor would I.

If you meant to imply good things about the people you were comparing to Trump, then, by all means, please clear the air.

to weaken and divide the Democratic Party (despite being outside our coalition) and the alt.left actively aided Trump's rise to power as a way to advance "the revolution" in the Leninist tradition of heightening the contradictions.

This forum has been used by alt.leftists for this purpose.

We can't ignore the Jill Steins, the Susan Sarandons, the JPRs, and their ilk. They exist.

Just because the deplorable racist Donald Trump embraced the term doesn't change the reality that alt.leftists helped get Trump into office.

We disagree on who helped Trump into office the most. However, that's over and done. It's unlikely the establishment will again get behind someone so unpopular that they could lose to Donald Trump, so it's unlikely the people you are demonizing could exist in high enough percentages to sway the next election. People who remain fixated on blaming that very small percentage of the population, and doing their best to make it seem that it's a higher percentage and lump more people into it, and acting like they were and are the real problem, are being counterproductive.

Which goes back to the point of the OP (and the one by kpete.)

The term "alt-left" is divisive and not something anyone within the Democratic Party should be helping to promulgate. It weakens us. End of story.

Please. This is utterly disingenuous.

More attacks on our party, more fabrications about "the establishment," and a non-recognition that these tactics helped elect Trump in the first place.

Yet you claim to be against being "divisive."

Good grief.

I'm just a Democrat, and all that encompasses.