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Coexist

(24,542 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:18 PM Jul 2012

Did Bain not have attorneys capable of putting together the paperwork to transfer authority

after Mitt left "suddenly"to run the business end of the Olympics?

Why are no reporters asking that? it was 3 years for crying out loud.


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Did Bain not have attorneys capable of putting together the paperwork to transfer authority (Original Post) Coexist Jul 2012 OP
Bain was represented by Ropes & Gray...the best Raven Jul 2012 #1
so its feasible. Yet we all just accept his sudden departure Coexist Jul 2012 #2
Gergen gave a plausible explanation but DUers won't be interested hearing it. dkf Jul 2012 #3
But you'll take the time to broadly disparage your fellow community members? myrna minx Jul 2012 #4
right? Coexist Jul 2012 #12
here are a few videos of Gergen's opinions maddezmom Jul 2012 #25
OOOOhhhh! so Gergen said they're his friends and they swore he wasn't there Coexist Jul 2012 #32
check this out...comments from his wife and personal attorney maddezmom Jul 2012 #34
Here you go...another Raven Jul 2012 #35
Don't expect anything better from that poster - one of DU's longest-standing kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #31
go on....throw it out there maddezmom Jul 2012 #5
Gergen has financial interest in Bain rufus dog Jul 2012 #6
Don't then. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #17
Ummm you're listening to a former NIXON consultant on this? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #19
I heard it but it's not plausible. SOMEONE was running the company during those years, pnwmom Jul 2012 #28
LOL, okay... Spazito Jul 2012 #33
How About His "Blind Trust" KharmaTrain Jul 2012 #7
there is a Romney quote stating that he doesn't believe in "blind trusts" progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #18
There was no need for legal paperwork to appoint an acting CEO William Seger Jul 2012 #8
but he was 'legacy signatory' is their excuse for him being on filings Coexist Jul 2012 #10
Yeah, well, that might fly IF... William Seger Jul 2012 #13
+1 Coexist Jul 2012 #15
either way, he's screwed. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #20
Yup William Seger Jul 2012 #24
There is no such thing in law as a "legacy signatory" Raven Jul 2012 #14
I'm hearing that an awful lot Coexist Jul 2012 #16
There IS no term for it. Some right wing business prof threw it out Raven Jul 2012 #21
so he wanted to remain in charge. Coexist Jul 2012 #22
IMO, absolutely! He wanted the control and Raven Jul 2012 #27
And that person would have been whoever was doing the work Romney insists he wasn't doing. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #29
It couldn't be done in 5 days eShirl Jul 2012 #9
???? Coexist Jul 2012 #11
Somebody had to take over the job treestar Jul 2012 #23
They outsourced the legal department liberal N proud Jul 2012 #26
Regardless of his legal representation..... Swede Atlanta Jul 2012 #30

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
2. so its feasible. Yet we all just accept his sudden departure
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jul 2012

left the company all aflutter about what to do..

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
3. Gergen gave a plausible explanation but DUers won't be interested hearing it.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:48 PM
Jul 2012

I won't explain it as I'm not interested in all the grief.

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
12. right?
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:25 PM
Jul 2012

Im interested to hear someone's explanation - which is why I asked the question.

It appears it could've been done, but someone didn't WANT it to be done.

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
32. OOOOhhhh! so Gergen said they're his friends and they swore he wasn't there
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:00 PM
Jul 2012

thats an argument and a half.

I was expecting more. I'm kinda disappointed

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
34. check this out...comments from his wife and personal attorney
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:39 PM
Jul 2012

In a November 2000 interview with the Globe, Romney’s wife, Ann, said he had been forced to lessen, but not end entirely, his involvement with Bain Capital.



(2) Interviews with Romney's wife and his lawyer regarding this period:
In a Boston Globe interview with Ann Romney from November 2000 the reporter learned
that Mitt Romney was dividing his time between running Bain and running the Olympics
project. “The (Olympics) project is running smoothly now, though still requiring so much
of Mitt Romney's time that he has had to lessen his involvement with Bain Capital, his
investment firm." (“West Wings Sprout,” Boston Globe 11/11/2000). Please note: not
end his involvement with Bain, but "lessen it"-precisely as Romney acknowledged in
shifting to part-time management involvement in l999.

Romney’s own personal lawyer as stated that he only became a passive investor in Bain
in August of 2001: “(Bradley) Malt, who was designated by the campaign to address
Romney’s time at Bain, said Romney finally resigned and reduced his role at the
company to that of a passive investor in 2001 when it became clear that he was going
to run for Massachusetts governor after the Olympics.” (“Cash, Advice on Tap at
Romney’s Old Firm” Washington Post 10/21/2007)

http://factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/07/OFA-FACTCHECK-LETTER-FINAL.pdf

hat tip to m_v.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=166394

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
31. Don't expect anything better from that poster - one of DU's longest-standing
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jul 2012

stealth trolls, IMHO.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
19. Ummm you're listening to a former NIXON consultant on this?
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jul 2012

then insulting your fellow DUers because we might not accept that David Gergen has the answer that absolves Romney's web of lies? Classic.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
28. I heard it but it's not plausible. SOMEONE was running the company during those years,
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

or several somebodies, and their names, not Mitt's, should have been put on the paperwork. There was an excuse for the first year, maybe, but not the other two.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
33. LOL, okay...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jul 2012


I do love that you felt compelled to post that you're not going to post an explanation of your post!

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. How About His "Blind Trust"
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jul 2012

When Mittens ran for governor in 2002 he supposedly put all his assets in a "blind trust"...a typical game the rich play to pretend they have no conflicts. Chenney also had all his Haliburton stock put in a "blind trust" and we saw how that didn't influence how he acted

Supposedly he his personal laywer is the administrator of that blind trust and we're to believe that Mittens doesn't know what's going on with it or can influence how its administered? Methinks there's a lot of questions inside this arrangement. Yet another reason Willard will fight...even if it means losing the election...to protect his money.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
18. there is a Romney quote stating that he doesn't believe in "blind trusts"
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:03 PM
Jul 2012

and that it's ridiculous to think that someone has no knowledge of what their money is doing. Someone on DU posted it... the guy says whatever he thinks fits the situation.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
8. There was no need for legal paperwork to appoint an acting CEO
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jul 2012

As owner, corporate president, and CEO, Rmoney simply had to declare an acting CEO. What we're being asked to believe is that Rmoney simply abandoned the leadership position of his business without a designated successor, leaving 18 leaderless partners to do as they wished without oversight, much less direction. This is bullshit.

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
10. but he was 'legacy signatory' is their excuse for him being on filings
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jul 2012

their crackerjack legal staff couldn't make it so he didn't have to be on the SEC filings?

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
13. Yeah, well, that might fly IF...
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jul 2012

... he had also appointed an acting CEO to take on the duties he claims to have given up. Apparently, he did not, and the only rational explanation is that he was still in control.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
24. Yup
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jul 2012

He comes off appearing to claim that his qualifications to be President are that he led a company that didn't need any leadership, and when he decided that heading up the Olympics would be more fun, he just didn't bother going to the office any more. He certainly should be screwed with that line.

Raven

(13,893 posts)
21. There IS no term for it. Some right wing business prof threw it out
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jul 2012

there and probably figured people would nod their heads so as not to look stupid. An authorized signature is an authorized signature. That is what allows business to run without choas. Imagine if you couldn't be sure that the person with the authority to sign something really had that authority. This is why companies have to file their papers with the Secretary of State. I know the law firm that Bain used. They would nenver have taken 2-3 years to prepare transition papers. What likely happened is that Bain didn't gt its act together and didn't know which partners would get the stock and take charge. In the meantime, Mitt remained in charge. There is just no way around this.

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
22. so he wanted to remain in charge.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jul 2012

he didn't want to transfer authority, or it would've been done.

Raven

(13,893 posts)
27. IMO, absolutely! He wanted the control and
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jul 2012

the money. That's why his tax returns are so important. As far as why it took so long...no way Ropes &Gray would have done that. I know that law firm very well. My father was a partner there. They would have had people working 24/7 to get that done if there had been a will to get it done.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. Somebody had to take over the job
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jul 2012

I'm also thinking a huge corporation doesn't just change overnight - Mittens is not off the hook for everything that happened after he left.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
30. Regardless of his legal representation.....
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

He is legally accountable for any documents that were filed with the SEC. He is responsible to be sure the documents are accurate before he affixes his signature. The law firm can be sued for malpractice in the event some affirmative act or omission on their part results in damages but RMoney is still legally culpable for his signature as it appears on official filings with the SEC.

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