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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:31 PM Aug 2017

Pastor Wants Presidents Names Removed From Washington, Jackson Parks Over Ties To Slavery

CHICAGO (CBS) — A Chicago pastor has asked the Emanuel administration to remove the names of two presidents who owned slaves from parks on the South Side, saying the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.

A bronze statue of George Washington on horseback stands at the corner of 51st and King Drive, at the northwest entrance to Washington Park.

Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center, said he wants the statue gone, and he wants George Washington’s name removed from the park.

“When I see that, I see a person who fought for the liberties, and I see people that fought for the justice and freedom of white America, because at that moment, we were still chattel slavery, and was three-fifths of humans,” he said. “Some people out here ask me, say ‘Well, you know, he taught his slaves to read.’ That’s almost sad; the equivalent of someone who kidnaps you, that you gave them something to eat.”

Dukes said, even though Washington was the nation’s first president and led the American army in the Revolutionary War, he’s no hero to the black community.

“There’s no way plausible that we would even think that they would erect a Malcolm X statue in Mount Greenwood, Lincoln Park, or any of that. Not that say Malcolm X was a bad guy; they just would not go for it,” he said. “Native Americans would not even think about putting up a Custer statue, because of the atrocities that he plagued upon Native Americans. And for them to say to us ‘just accept it’ is actually insulting.”

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners/

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Pastor Wants Presidents Names Removed From Washington, Jackson Parks Over Ties To Slavery (Original Post) ansible Aug 2017 OP
Awful lot of Washingtons and Jeffersons zipplewrath Aug 2017 #1
Don't get carried away, Pastor oswaldactedalone Aug 2017 #2
If you remove from anything the names of ANYONE who ever owned slaves Dreamer Tatum Aug 2017 #3
He doesn't get it SoCalNative Aug 2017 #4
Thank you. SharonClark Aug 2017 #5
What are we going to rename Washington state and DC? LittleBlue Aug 2017 #6

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. Awful lot of Washingtons and Jeffersons
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:47 PM
Aug 2017

The stark reality is that when slaves had to take on last names, they often chose Washington and Jefferson (Strangely, not as many took on Lincoln). Washington's accomplishments were unique significant, even if he wasn't perfect by any stretch. Jefferson, being the author predominately of the DOI, is an interestingly (and creates a wonderful teachable moment) someone who represents what we all are on occasion, well intentioned if not still suffering from some blind spots. Jackson, well, he shoulda been forgotten long ago.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
2. Don't get carried away, Pastor
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:48 PM
Aug 2017

In due time, let's take care of the Confederate abominations first, then maybe go for it. Are you sure this is a legit request. Seems to play right into Dump's hands from his comments yesterday.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
3. If you remove from anything the names of ANYONE who ever owned slaves
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:49 PM
Aug 2017

almost nothing would be named after historical figures.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
4. He doesn't get it
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:49 PM
Aug 2017

neither of those presidents committed treason against the United States. Every last confederate supporter, soldier, commander and sympathizer did.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. What are we going to rename Washington state and DC?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 01:07 PM
Aug 2017

Cincinnati was named after Lucius Cincinnatus who, like all Roman patricians, owned slaves. Alexander the Great sold slaves, so every Alexandria has to go too.

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