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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou Need To See What This Iraqi Woman Wrote On This Sign
Read this. Then encourage someone in your life to become a Conscientious Objector.Her sign reads: My name is Alla. Im an Iraqi from Baghdad. I lost my home, friends, 3 sisters, and every beautiful memory I had there. Now I live in the U.S. on my own with PTSD, ADD and bad mental health. I didnt have the life you had when I was a child. I was born and raised in war. I hope everyone with a shred of conscious [sic] will reject military orders to participate in war.
(For more information about the Our Lives, Our Rights campaign, which aims to educate soldiers about their right to refuse deployment overseas, visit their website. http://ourlivesourrights.org/ )
Source: Found on the Facebook page of Being Matsu/MoveOn.org
xchrom
(108,903 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)"War is not healthy for children and other living things"...was true in the sixties and remains true today. War doesn't change or solve conflicts, it merely profits those who sell arms and bullets. Yes, we need a source of "common Defense", but what we have is Eisenhower's warnings come true once more. Now we have enemies that dream of our demise and pain.
BUT at least we no longer have the Draft!
In an economy as this is world wide, one sure way to "survive" is to enlist in the military.
Been there, done that as a Navy wife post Vietnam. Reagan's "economy".
The change needs to be from the Top, not the soldier whose rank has little impacts.
May this very pretty young woman overcome all that life has dumped on her. May her heart and life find peace and joys.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)the top won't.
If it was that easy we could get the top warmongers in a room and let them off each other.
VenusRising
(11,252 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)an "enemy" with a face, isn't really an enemy, just a victim.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)because he can't leave the US or he just shanked a 4-iron into a trap, someone should show him this. It will bring a smile to his gin-blossomed face.
lastlib
(23,244 posts)...Kristol, Bolton, and all the other neo-CON bullshit-heads!!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)then to be sent to the country that did it to find it's populated by people who act like they're obsessed with trivial things and shopping. Then to find the ones responsible are generally regarded as having lied the nation into the war that killed your whole family but those people are considered to be above the law and their Party not only defends it but wants to do it some more.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)How do you know she didn't come here of her own volition?
Her situation is tragic, of course, however she arrived...It's hard to imagine
losing so much family suddenly like that, although I did know
someone who lost her brother in Vietnam and then lost the rest
of her entire family in a car crash shortly after.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Think about how long the war has been going on.
valerief
(53,235 posts)It's proven over and over and over and over and over and over again.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)sports,at least to some people no matter who gets hurt.
valerief
(53,235 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)When she points out that sadam faced a trial for his crimes and asks why bush hasn't faced a trial what will you say to her or any of our victims?
And what will you say to her when like millions of women in Iraq and Afghanistan her babies are born ravaged for life by the WMD known as depleted uranium that we put there.
Those who choose to keep their heads buried in the sand show their asses to the world.
PBass
(1,537 posts)Here's why impeachment was off the table: it was a dead end. It was a complete impossibility based on the votes in Congress, and therefore a waste of everyone's time. Impeachment would have failed, and it would have been an embarrassment to the president and the party.
We didn't get impeachment for the same reasons we don't have Single Payer health care, a rollback of the Bush tax cuts, or the Dream Act: it was recognized as a political impossibility, once a tally was made by the party leaders.
7000 posts on DU and you still don't understand the nuts and bolts of how our government works...
Here's another reason impeachment was off the table... because it was never on the table to begin with. If you can find any evidence that Obama (or other party leaders) campaigned on impeaching Bush, please share. Why would the president make impeachment the focus of his administration, when it wasn't even mentioned during his campaign?
I wish people would stop crapping up good threads with this irrational nonsense. Did you vote for Obama because you thought he would throw Bush and Cheney in jail? If so, you're delusional.
Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)The time to impeach Bush was while he was still in office. After Bush left office, impeachment was no longer necessary or possible. What we need now is a trial for war crimes.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)Voted for President and will do so again for entirely other reasons. We The People pushed for and got a Democratic Congress under President bush, and yes I am quite aware that it was not a true Democratic majority in either branch when Nancy Pelosi became Speaker of the House.
My rant was directed at us...We the People did not try hard enough. It horrified me then and angers me now regarding what we did to those people over in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Looking into the face of that young lady in that photo brings it all back for me,the very reason I joined the DU and the reason I chose my name.. My earliest posts were my way of making more of us aware of what was being done by our government.
bush and company are war criminals and as such it fell to us to at the very least try to stop him. Instead we let them go, we just continue to let them fade away into history....no Nurnberg trials on the horizon. Do you recall that we made those Germans see what their government did in those concentration camps? HOW THE HELL ARE WE DIFFERENT? Oh yeah, they did not have a democracy.
Screaming at me changes nothing.... if you want to forget what we did to them that is your business, the DU provides you with an ignore button so you won't have to put up with me reminding you....that lass in the photo, her letter shows she can not forget, her people won't EVER forget, nor will I.
If you got all that anger, that you wish to aim at me for what I wrote, for what I write here, go over to you tube and type in 'Iraq depleted uranium'. Spend as much time as you can stomach there watching the nightmare we unleashed....then get back to me about my reasons for being angry, at us. Then tell me that there was nothing we could have done...still should do.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)Iggy
(1,418 posts)regarding the 500,000 dead Iraqi children (due to U.S./Great Britain imposed sanctions)?
Guests of the shadow summit for Afghan women included none other than Former U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright. The same sanction-defending, the price (read: a half million dead Iraqi children) was worth it Madeline Albright. The practitioner of humanitarian militarism herself.
This unashamed war propaganda, which commends NATOs progress in the realm of pseudo-rights for Afghan women, repeats the same imperialist evangelism adopted by the Bush administration, with the help of former First Lady Laura Bush. The decade-long occupation of Afghanistan has long been marketed as being the good war , the just war, the war on behalf of Afghan women; even the official name used by the U.S. government for the war on Afghanistan, Operation Enduring Freedom, reeks of white mans burden, which is still very much alive in present-day U.S. war culture.
weak, very weak.
http://collateraldamagemagazine.com/2012/06/01/amnesty-international-nato-keep-the-progress-going/
obxhead
(8,434 posts)one bullet, bomb, and destroyed family at a time since 2001.
nthan890
(1 post)i found this page years late but,i was just saying how pissed i am at our corrupted government went and murdered all the Innocent I'm sorry and my heart hurt for all of the civilians. i am american but i am disgusted in the people here,i know off topic but that is why i will not date white women. iraqi women,are more beautiful,better personality,sweeter,ect..... might i add we are in times when the same can happen here i hope you know yeashua you deserve to be in heaven for eternity.just go to shattering myths.com or bless yahowah.