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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:07 PM Jul 2012

Three states will vote on legalizing marijuana in November.

The Oregon Cannabis Tax Act (OCTA) initiative was approved for the ballot last night.

Similar initiatives have already been approved for the ballot in Colorado and Washington.

Legalization is polling at 50% nationwide in the latest Gallup poll, with support higher in the West.

Is 2012 the year at least one state votes to end pot prohibition?

And how will this impact the national election campaign?

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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. For those who are interested, there is a new book out on the topic.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jul 2012

"Marijuana Legalization: What Everyone Needs to Know" by Mark Kleiman and several other academics. It's a remarkably balanced assessment of the issues around legalization, and it disaggregates the multifold issues nicely in bite-sized chunks.

It just hit the book stores yesterday.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
2. I learned something yesterday
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jul 2012

about the reason behind so many California medical
mj busts. (A bit off topic from your OP, don't mean to
hijack the thread)

This came from someone running one of the NM mmj
businesses: according to him, the people being busted
are making profits at odds with the status of nonprofit
orgs. There is also some grow limit set by fed and people
in CA keep pushing the limit or exceeding it.

The NM program is much more tightly regulated and
nobody here is getting busted. I don't know how
complete this information is but the source seemed
to be knowledgeable on this.
.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
3. That's not quite right.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:04 PM
Jul 2012

The issue in California is whether any sales of medical marijuana is legal. There is a huge ball of confusion about that, which will hopefully be sorted out shortly by the state Supreme Court. In the meantime, some local prosecutors say sales are illegal, while others are perfectly fine with them. There is no requirement that dispensaries be non-profit.

The feds in California have targeted all sorts of medical marijuana operations, including some that have been scrupulously complying with state laws and local ordinances.

There is no medical marijuana "grow limit" set by the feds. As far as they're concerned, it's all illegal. There are federal criminal penalties based on how many plants you grow. More than 99 plants gets you a five-year mandatory minimum prison sentence.

About 500 California dispensaries have been forced out of business since the federal crackdown began last fall.

Your friend is right about New Mexico. Its tightly-controlled program has not attracted much federal attention.

But let's get past this medical marijuana issue by just legalizing pot.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. No problemo. I follow this stuff closely.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 06:02 PM
Jul 2012

I also grow my own 10 x 10 plot here in Sonoma County, which is what the county allows. That keeps me out of the marijuana market. And I get to smoke my very own organic Sonoma Coast Sungrown. Yummy.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
4. Love to see Indiana on the list,
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jul 2012

but we'll probably be the last state to legalize pot! Sure would make a nice retirement in my golden years.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
12. I feel the same way about Tennessee unfortunately we have the headquarters for the immoral
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:22 PM
Jul 2012

and dysfunctional for profit prison industry leader, CCA located in our state.

I wish Tennessee would wake up, legalize cannabis and outlaw the for profit prison industry; before that evil, anti-freedom lobbying entity leads us down the road to Perdition.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
6. Well that will give Obama and Holder more people to harrass
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:04 PM
Jul 2012

Rather than going after war criminals and banksters.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
9. Colorado will end the prohibition
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jul 2012

by declaring Amendment 64 passed by the voters, and immediately enacted into law instead of waiting until July 1st of next year...

Then the U.S. Attorney John Walsh will have no choice but to resign after MMJ patients beat his door down and demand states rights.

It is legal under the 10th Amendment.

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
11. Kicked and recommended for the great states of Oregon, Colorado and Washington.
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:17 PM
Jul 2012

Legalize and end the insanity.

Thanks for the thread, Comrade Grumpy.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
13. the colorado initiative is likely to draw out the younger voters
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jul 2012

according to tpm, the president has about a six percent lead here. if we can get out the youth vote, i think obama could take the state.

anything less than an ounce will only get you a $100 ticket here as is.

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