was erected looong after the Civil War. In fact, it was erected in the early days of the Civil Rights Movement, in order to make a statement about AZ's stand on that social issue.

Was it even a state at the time of the Civil War?

and a territorial government.

and keep racism alive, IMO.

Arizona yeah a hotbed of the Civil War right???

than they are now, and several Civil War skirmishes took place in what is now Arizona:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Picacho_Pass

and in what was Arizona, but is now in New Mexico (this was more than a skirmish):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Glorieta_Pass

I posted a nice graph of when the monuments and schools were names, and it shows 2 periods of time,

Phoenix and Tucson would have had a total of about 10,000 residents at that time, with approximately half migrating from Mexico.

The only battle in AZ was at Picacho Pass, see link, about 120 confederates, mostly Texans battled the Union supporters, mostly Californians.

I was born in AZ, lived there through College, and had no idea that this plague or plaque even existed.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Picacho_Pass

of any kind in the Arizona territory.

Learn something new every day.

(I believe)

Arizona and New Mexico weren't separate territories at the time, and the Confederate-supporting faction wanted to make Arizona (which was then the southern parts of present-day Arizona and New Mexico) part of the Confederacy. There was a Civil War battle fought at Glorietta Pass in what's now New Mexico which put an end to that - in 1862.

was in line to become a slave state, eventually. There were many citizens sympathetic to the South, and yes, some fighting occurred. Basically, it was between Federal regulars and local militias.

In discussions with pro-Confederacy types, I always make it a point to describe their beloved flag as a participation trophy.

Very clever folks out there in Phoenix I see.

Now go home, shut up, and let America be America.

without vandalizing or otherwise doing damage to the monument.

because that is what they are. We can help turn public opinion against these men.

Losing a war is not in and of itself shameful. It is that they fought THIS WAR at all. They waged war against the US in an effort to preserve slavery, killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in the process.

Second Place is First Loser.

Statues. When in fact they were traitors. There is no glory in the enslavement of a race. When will they scrape Stone Mountain of this evil legacy?

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I've been thinking of doing something like this on a confederate monument near where I live. They should all be festooned with such mockery.

"Aww, you really tried!"
"Participant."
"Better luck next time!"
"Good sport."
"Best loser."
"We're #2!"
Etc.

I didn't even know we had this shit here. As if we didn't have enough to be ashamed of in this Republican shit hole. Right outside the capitol, no less.

to every single one of these.. I'm done appeasing this confederacy bullshit..