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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 04:47 PM Aug 2017

And today my long-awaited final vindication has come:

WikiLeaks Turned Down Leaks on Russian Government During U.S. Presidential Campaign

In the summer of 2016, as WikiLeaks was publishing documents from Democratic operatives allegedly obtained by Kremlin-directed hackers, Julian Assange turned down a large cache of documents related to the Russian government, according to chat messages and a source who provided the records.

WikiLeaks declined to publish a wide-ranging trove of documents — at least 68 gigabytes of data — that came from inside the Russian Interior Ministry, according to partial chat logs reviewed by Foreign Policy. The logs, which were provided to FP, only included WikiLeaks’s side of the conversation.

“As far as we recall these are already public,” WikiLeaks wrote at the time. “WikiLeaks rejects all submissions that it cannot verify. WikiLeaks rejects submissions that have already been published elsewhere or which are likely to be considered insignificant. WikiLeaks has never rejected a submission due to its country of origin,” the organization wrote in a Twitter direct message when contacted by FP about the Russian cache.

(The account is widely believed to be operated solely by Assange, the group’s founder, but in a Twitter message to FP, the organization said it is maintained by “staff.”)

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/


It's been a long and windy road to the truth, but I told you ages ago this shit was coming out sooner or later... And the best part of it is the writer is a Snowdenista and Intercept steographer so the standard "PENTAGON/NSA SHILL!!!" retort means fuck-all...
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And today my long-awaited final vindication has come: (Original Post) Blue_Tires Aug 2017 OP
K&R rogue emissary Aug 2017 #1
K&r UTUSN Aug 2017 #2
+1,000,000,000 ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #3
He refused to publish the Panama papers as well. BainsBane Aug 2017 #4
I wonder what the excuse will be this time. yardwork Aug 2017 #5
I know I'm kinda new BASE Aug 2017 #6
I think the point is Egnever Aug 2017 #8
Welcome to DU, BASE! calimary Aug 2017 #14
Ah, I see and I totally get what you are saying now. BASE Aug 2017 #17
The New Yorker has a piece this week... farmbo Aug 2017 #23
It was all about destroying Hillary. Initech Aug 2017 #7
And so many just opened wide and swallowed the bait. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #19
Worth waiting for, Blue_Tires! brer cat Aug 2017 #9
Wikileaks Russia mcar Aug 2017 #10
Excellent! I remember your excellent work on this subject. R B Garr Aug 2017 #11
I can't imagine Assange, busy avoiding justice, has had a very tight rein on what is going on... LudwigPastorius Aug 2017 #12
Agreed. How much control over Wikileaks does he even have anymore from inside that embassy? brush Aug 2017 #15
I hope the asshole Assange rots in the ecuadorian embassy still_one Aug 2017 #13
After Rorhbacher's visit this week, DJTjr started following assange on Twitter. VermontKevin Aug 2017 #16
Greenwald, Assange and Snowden are as much of a joke as Trump is. And their followers just as blind stevenleser Aug 2017 #18
Are you suggesting they "have flaws" as sources of information? ehrnst Aug 2017 #20
I'm saying they intentionally lie and distort. And Assange all but admitted it stevenleser Aug 2017 #21
To clarify, I was mocking those who say that Hillary was "flawed" ehrnst Aug 2017 #22

BainsBane

(53,066 posts)
4. He refused to publish the Panama papers as well.
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 06:14 PM
Aug 2017

Yet we still see people pretending to be on the left defend the rapist.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
8. I think the point is
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

WikiLeaks has been nothing more than an anti American tool it's entire existence.

More than happy to post any information detrimental to America it can get it's hands on but unwilling to post anything about Russia.

Leading one to believe they are nothing more than a Russian tool pretending to be an outlet for whistle blowers.

calimary

(81,466 posts)
14. Welcome to DU, BASE!
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:36 AM
Aug 2017

Everybody here has been there, too!

You ask a good question. As I read it, THIS stood out:

"WikiLeaks declined to publish a wide-ranging trove of documents — at least 68 gigabytes of data — that came from inside the Russian Interior Ministry, according to partial chat logs reviewed by Foreign Policy. The logs, which were provided to FP, only included WikiLeaks’s side of the conversation."

Okay, I'm pretty doggone cynical about this bunch that cheated its way into OUR White House with plenty of help from Russia. I'm automatically predisposed to assume the worst, to assume they're up to something or they were sneaking something or they're lying about something or ... well, you know.

So the first thing that struck me here, since I too like to try to figure out "what does this mean?" - was "why did they decline to publish this? Was there dirt in there about trump that Wikileaks was anxious to keep secret? After all, their behavior certainly has never been consistent with that of an entity trying to help Hillary Clinton. If they declined to publish this stuff, was it REALLY because they knew it was a repeat of stuff already out there? I'd suspect Hillary haters at that level would be more inclined to release it ANYWAY, never mind that it was material already released. They'd figure most of the dumb-ass public already predisposed toward trump would just believe it anyway and assume it was simply more dirt on Hillary, even while knowing there was NOTHING new in there. Seems to me they wouldn't care about that.

These people are sneaky, slippery, deceitful, and conniving as all-get-out. I ALWAYS expect the worst of them, and they always prove me right.

 

BASE

(44 posts)
17. Ah, I see and I totally get what you are saying now.
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 12:33 AM
Aug 2017

The vindication part of the OP had me scratching my head a little, as I just didn't have enough history here I guess.

It makes sense that Assange might be a little hesitant to publish anti Russia stuff.

And thanks for the welcome

LudwigPastorius

(9,170 posts)
12. I can't imagine Assange, busy avoiding justice, has had a very tight rein on what is going on...
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 07:50 PM
Aug 2017

at Wikileaks. (If he even cares about vetting the staff.) It's easy to imagine the FSB saw an opportunity early on to infiltrate the organization and are now using it to Putin's advantage.

There is also every reason to believe that Assange is actively assisting them. Any initial editorial stance of unbiased handling of all submitted material probably went out the window when the American government began coming down on Wikileaks for publishing classified material.

The smarmy fucker, Assange, is probably half-crazy from his self-inflicted sequestration and he dreams of nothing but revenge these days.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. Greenwald, Assange and Snowden are as much of a joke as Trump is. And their followers just as blind
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 01:57 AM
Aug 2017

to their serious problems.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Are you suggesting they "have flaws" as sources of information?
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:34 AM
Aug 2017

Then, they're clearly unacceptable as sources of information....

I mean, sure, we all want non-traditional news sources, but just not "these" sources.

We should hold out for the "right" alternative fact sources. It's not enough give them credibility because they are "not mainstream."









 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. To clarify, I was mocking those who say that Hillary was "flawed"
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 07:10 PM
Aug 2017

and therefore "unelectable," but eagerly gobble up anything these "alternative" information sources spurt out.

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