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http://www.businessinsider.com/uss-fitzgerald-sailors-punished-7-2017-8
.... ... the ship's commanding officer, executive officer and master chief petty officer (will) be removed from the vessel because "we've lost trust and confidence in their ability to lead."
The report said the collision at 1:30 am local time sent water pouring into the US warship. ....
Within 60 seconds, the berthing was completely flooded. More than two dozen of the 35 sailors in it escaped. ....
Two sailors stayed at the foot of the ladder in the compartment to help others escape.
"The choices made by these two sailors likely saved the lives of at least two of their shipmates," the report says.
The commanding officer was trapped in his cabin, and five sailors used a sledgehammer to break through the door. ....
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lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)They have no future in the Navy.
GP6971
(31,189 posts)Probably not for the CO and definitely not for the XO
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)So they might as well retire.
GP6971
(31,189 posts)with benefits. The Master Chief most surely has 20 years....the Captain (a Rank 0f 05) may be there, but not the XO (maybe an 04 with less than 14 years)
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)They were relieved of command and their careers were essentially over. I should have made a better choice of words.
GP6971
(31,189 posts)I think all of us got what you were saying....especially those of us associated with the military.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)UTUSN
(70,720 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1)
They're being punished like in a car or train crash - somebody was at fault - careless, asleep, incompetent, drugged, who knows.
I've never been clear how the collision course played out - how the other ship (turned around?) into the hit yet was not at fault.
So, since the Navy ship was at fault, not only the top officers and Chief cited in the article are negligent, but others who were on actual Duty (on the radar?), for receiving communications (radio?) warnings. I've been gone from the Navy since 1971, so I don't even know but do they still have personnel on Watch ("Guard" duty in Army jargon) who use BINOCULARS? Also, those responsible for the NAVIGATION, the course the ship was on, the steering.
So the personnel who were supposed to be NAVIGATING/steering and WATCHING for whatever hazards, which is supposed to be a duty happening ALL THE TIME, would be directly responsible for the disaster. The upper officers who are in command over all take their share of the dereliction.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)Can't imagine allowing anything close enough to shoot, let alone make contact.
With today's technology it seems an incident like that just wouldn't happen. Something went very wrong.