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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 11:56 AM Aug 2017

I believe that today's Camp David meeting is a ruse.

Here's my take on the scheduled Camp David meeting about America's Afghanistan policy. I think these guys are getting Trump there to read him the riot act, using Afghanistan as an excuse.

Let's look at some facts and some opinion. Gen. Kelly must be beside himself. He wants discipline and order in the White House. When Charlottesville occurred and Trump made a horrible statement on Saturday, basically defending the Nazis and the Klan, Kelly must have been horrified. Trump then went out on Monday with a carefully worded statement and must have been told "just read this". He still had to ad lib the "all sides, all sides" that ruined the whole reason for the statement. Kelly and company must have figured we can spin this, but we need to change the subject and fast. So, Tuesday was scheduled as a infra-structure plan roll out. It was supposed to be carefully choreographed. Trump comes down the elevator, reads a 5 minute statement, returns to the elevator, and then a Q&A with Mnuchin and Elaine Cho. Kelly must have been furious when that program went off the rails.

Add to this that the Joint Chiefs released a statement condemning racism the next day, Bannon's interview dissing Tillerson and McMasters and I'm guessing all the so called adults in the room have had it.

Today's meeting is with Trump, Defense Secretary Mattis, Sec. of State Tillerson, Chief of Staff Kelly VP and NSA director McMaster.

My theory goes like this. They will tell Trump that they will no longer stand for his bullshit. They will inform him that they will all resign if he doesn't get rid of Bannon, Gorka and Steve Miller.

They will further inform him that he's on a 'last chance agreement". That even after the firing of the aforementioned, if he doesn't fully the script that they will write, they will resign and speak out against him.

I think this meeting was set up so that there would be no interference from anyone else except the "Circle of Generals" plus Tillerson (who's on the same page).

They are not going to continue to participate in this circus, with this clown, but I believe they will give Trump one more chance, as long as he knows who's boss, and it ain't him.

That's my theory and I don't think it will work.

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DK504

(3,847 posts)
3. How the hell did they get him to Camp David?
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:04 PM
Aug 2017

If he calls the WH a dump, what will he think of Camp David?

drray23

(7,635 posts)
10. i can think of two reasons.
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:38 PM
Aug 2017

first, the white house is still being renovated so most of the west wing was evacuated. Second and maybe more importantly, they want to be in a place with no interference from the rest of the staff and camp followers roaming the west wing.
If the goal is to set Trump straight, they want it to be in a place they can control.

dalton99a

(81,558 posts)
4. No such thing will happen
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:05 PM
Aug 2017

They knew what this administration was about. Nobody forced them to work for Trump.

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
7. If they are going to do anything like you suggest,
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:18 PM
Aug 2017

they can't be that blunt. They will have to flatter him.

They will have to make it look like they are acting more in trump's interests than Bannon, Gorka and Miller. That is how they will get rid of those three. Make them look like a threat to trump.

Their threats to resign must be couched in other terms, terms that include some sort of reward. It would be like giving your pet his medication inside a pill pocket. I don't know how they will do that.

And, they will have to let him think he is still boss.

I do agree with you on this: It won't work.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
8. I Hope Every Word of Your Prediction Is True
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
Aug 2017

Kelly most likely thought that if he could whip a bunch of raw recruits into the effective fighting machine he worked for his entire adult life, one loudmouth real estate goon from NYC wouldn't be much of a challenge.

Hah! shitgibbon is the teenage fuck-up who is the first one to get kicked out of bootcamp. The problem is that Kelly can't get rid of the fuck-up and work with better recruits. This is probably their last ditch effort to get PINO to straighten up or have his whole con blown up.

Damn, I would love to be a fly on the wall in Camp David this weekend.

Cyrano

(15,046 posts)
9. Rachel speculated last night that
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:25 PM
Aug 2017

Trump may want to "privatize" the Afghanistan war. She put this forward as a possible reason for today's meeting. Erik Prince, the head of what was Blackwater, has put out a proposal to take over U.S. military activities in Afghanistan with mercenaries.

This would cost billions of dollars and it sounds like the kind of thing Trump would love.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
11. If they were going to have an intervention it would not be there. These people who work for Trump
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:40 PM
Aug 2017

still support him. They have known he was batshit crazy from day 1.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
14. I think that Trump will fire Bannon and whip his staff into a frenzy, and
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 12:49 PM
Aug 2017

everyone will give testimony on their committed loyalty to the Orange Turd, and His Orangeness will issue the orders leading to firing Mueller. When the meeting is over, all will put on Orange arm bands with a "T" where the swastika belongs.

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