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A relative sent me this in defense of the Confederate statues.
18 U.S. Code § 1369 - Destruction of veterans memorials (a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. (b) A circumstance described in this subsection is that (1) in committing the offense described in subsection (a), the defendant travels or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses the mail or an instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce; or (2) the structure, plaque, statue, or other monument described in subsection (a) is located on property owned by, or under the jurisdiction of, the Federal Government.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)Did an Act of Congress make Confederate Soldiers of the U.S.
You'll get a lovely treasure trove of information.
The short answer is that no, the act of Congress didn't exactly do that. It is a bit more nuanced.
lapfog_1
(29,216 posts)"If you're referring to the 1958 legislation, all it did was make Confederate veterans eligible for the same VA benefits as Union soldiers were. It did not make them U.S. veterans, make any other official change in their status, or extend any particular protections to graves or monuments."
Leghorn21
(13,525 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The conflation of two very disparate sections of the U.S. Code is a tip-off that someone is trying the old flim-flam. In 1957, Congress passed Public Law 85-425, increasing the pensions of widows of veterans and for the purposes of defining who was an eligible widow, Congress generously included the surviving widows of Confederate soldiers. The last confirmed confederate soldier died in 1951, six years before the law was passed. The claim is bogus.
As for statues on public lands, I'd prefer we give that space over to statues of Americans who didn't take up arms against our government to maintain their right to buy and sell human beings, break up families, rape women and children, and degrade humanity.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)So good.
Hope you don't mind.
elleng
(131,032 posts)under U.S. Public Law 810, Approved by the 17th Congress on 26 Feb 1929 the War Department was directed to erect headstones and recognize Confederate grave sites as U.S. War dead grave sites. Just for the record the last Confederate veteran died in 1958. When you remove a Confederate statue, monument or headstone, you are in fact, removing a statue, monument or head stone of a U.S. VETERAN
The bold text does not include statues.
Adding statues to the protection is disingenuous.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)It sounds like the same kind of bullshit that neo-confederates spew, such as nonsense like the Civil War wasn't about slavery and was instead about "states' rights". It's a deliberate white washing (pun intended) of history for nefarious purposes.
Ptah
(33,033 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)The rights of states to continue with slavery.
That's what I tell them.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Nobody was telling the southern states they couldn't own slaves. What they were being told was when their slaves went to certain other states, either by fleeing or traveling with their slave owners, they were no longer slaves.
So historically speaking, the rational for the Civil War was an anti-states' rights position and this was fully articulated in numerous confederate documents, not the least of which was all the articles of secession issued by the confederate states.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Thank you
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)and pesky Constitutions only apply when they're trying to justify their warped viewpoint.
world wide wally
(21,751 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)For future reference. There's some excellent facts shared in this thread.
Thanks all.
I had an informed discussion thanks to all your help.
Not sure how much I got through but it did help.