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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTina Fey, a grateful nation thanks you...
Whether we realize it or not.
1. How do you make humor out of the decidedly 'unfunny'? Physical comedy. I think we can all agree on that.
2. How does one cut through (as a representative of a publicly traded company) a national tension so thick that a ginsu knife might fail? Screaming into a cake seems about right.
3. If you were expecting an NBC broadcast to call people into the streets to protest (especially after a recent protest turned deadly)...you might want to rethink those expectations.
4. A comedian's job is not to solve national crises, but to find a way to let people at least talk around them (and hopefully also through them) with humor. In that regard Fey succeeded spectacularly.
Speaking for myself (and the people I know), this week was one of shock and horror; the trauma of home grown Nazis killing those that would oppose them, and the stark realization that our nation's highest office belongs to a traitorous white nationalist. We were shocked and horrified beyond words, actually. I mean, how do you get together face-to-face with your friends and say, "hey, I know we've all had a shit week, but why don't we go back and rehash it? That's what we need, right?" If you were in Boston this weekend, sure, you knew what you had to do. But if you were elsewhere?
Enter Tina Fey and her sheet cake. Tina Fey wasn't telling people to give up and eat cake, she was providing a humorous and approachable mechanism by which to talk about what has happened and what we do about it.
I ended up with a piece of sheet cake in front of me yesterday (birthday, not protest). And, you know what, it did help cut the tension of the week a bit.
Thanks for reading.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)The satire seemed to be about the people 'unsure' how to talk about or deal with those things. I don't see the humor there.
The satire and memes all over the internet mocking the nazi creeps aggressively agitates and humiliates the freaks - hence it's an additional weapon.
But the cake-stuffing, 'black guy' trannys, 'hot girl' slave shit, I don't see the humor
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Nobody could ignore the events of this week. Most people have not been following along as closely as we on this site (and elsewhere on the internet) have been. Yes, I think Fey's bit was more for those folks than for us. But truly, even though I do talk about this stuff all of the time, putting this week into words was challenging.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)I understand what you're saying, but her target audience seemed to be the very people already well informed.
It was just my impression, but I'm no expert in comedy or satire
still_one
(92,204 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 20, 2017, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)
feel as racism, bigotry, and sexism is legitimized. The American flag decorating that cake was completely obliterated, symbolizing the 70 years of civil rights progress being whittled away
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Did a pretty good job of helping put it into words though, didn't it?
What people seem to be getting hung up on (and rightly so) is, what's consuming the cake? What did Fey represent?
That's the harder thing to understand, face and discuss. But, yes, white privilege is at the core.
But for now, a better universal understanding of the threats to our country, and a context by which to talk about them, is a good thing.
still_one
(92,204 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)They said:
1. I'd rather listen to POC than whitesplaining on this (alt-right).
2. She's disgusting - it's not a topic for humor.
3. Tina Fey sees ignoring white supremacists as a solution...
4. You shouldn't bother going to a rally. Just stay home and eat your sorrows away. So problematic on so many levels. Just not funny to me.
One can only assume folks like these must have been equally outraged at the Colbert Report, The Daily Show, and SNL political satire and parody over the years, if it's wrong to make light of serious issues.
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)murielm99
(30,741 posts)They are divisive and not worth your attention.
I admire many of our comedians right now. I don't know how they find the wherewithal to makes jokes in these times.
My birthday is next week. Maybe I should buy a sheet cake and go sit down in our public park and rail against some of the shit that is happening. But I am no Tina Fey.
I do think that part of the outrage is that she is a girl doing this. It is more okay for Colbert and other men to make jokes.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)I, too, wondered about the sexism element, since video clips of male comics posted on our Resistance website haven't elicited the same outrage.
I might also throw in an ageism factor specifically for our website, since membership is 80 percent women age 40+ (mostly Women's March alumna), and the far-left anti-Fey group members are young adults who lecture us old gals as though we're clueless buffoons.
Perhaps in addition to "mansplaining" and "whitesplaining," we need to create the word "millenialsplaining."
TheBlackAdder
(28,205 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)She's not a politician; she's a comedian. It was a joke. It had no responsibility beyond making people laugh.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Or you become so depressed you cannot function.
My husband and I just had a conversation about the deaths of Jerry Lewis and Dick Gregory. I was not a Lewis fan, thought he was silly when I was a child. He did however do good work with the MD telethons, which I never watched.
Dick Gregory spent his entire career and life working to make things better for lots of people. Gregory's humor was for a great cause. I am much more touched by his death.
murielm99
(30,741 posts)I loved Dick Gregory and his humor spoke to me more than Lewis' humor.
However, Jerry Lewis was a giant of humor in his time. It was about a generation before me, so I respect him but do not find him nearly as funny.
RIP to both of them. We need laughter, no matter what our generation.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)How funny she was as Palin! How funny she's been in her duos with other comedians! How great a writer she's been for decades!
Until she makes the horrible mistake of her humor not being a call to arms. Forsooth! She is the enemy!
Humor is humor. She makes fun of stuff, particularly current events...and all (I mean ALL) people. She's a comedian. She's not a political satirist, she's not Proust, she's not Martin Luther King. She's a comedian. She's funny.
Even political humorists can't win for losin' with some people. Bill Maher is an example.
Each of us needs to find our own, special little comedian who does jokes only how we say they should be done. But somehow I think that wouldn't be so funny.
NotASurfer
(2,151 posts)"Give me some of that damn cake!"
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)with insane amounts of weaponry. It's stress/comfort eating and he went for it. Funny, effective moment.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)counter-protesting is a good way to burn off those calories.