more importance along the way? - If Turley wants to offer legal advise, fine - but "dangerous" to impeach the worst person to hold the highest office in our land, expresses a personal opinion....

Turley now joins the ranks of the likes of R Stone.....a few steps "down" the ladder into the abyss...

BTW - Mueller is hot on the trail......

As I recall, he used to be a frequent guest of Keith Olbermann

He even added a decidedly partisan edge to it this morning by claiming "The democrats spent eight years expanding the powers of the Presidency",
by which he meant Obama, no doubt..That gets another "Huh"? from me , as I wasn't aware of all this presidential "expansion" during PBO's administration.

his analysis was that it would be ruled down. He was wrong. When Sotomayor was selected for SC justice, he suggested she "wasn't very bright", and that this was only an affirmative action pick.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/5/26/735541/-

He has been referred to as a liberal, but from what I have seen, and from is actions, he fits into the libertarian category, and I have very little patience for their garbage

Sotomayer "wasn't very bright"...Right.

for both his supposed opinion and his flagrant hypocrisy -- "lowering the bar" indeed.

Turley was on countdown a lot. After that appearance we never say him again. Revealed his true colors

because it would tear the country apart ...

That was the board meme from the media at the time.

There will ALWAYS be a rationale to not hold them to account for their fuck wittery, in equal proportion to the jackassery necessary to justify doing in a D. Cause, you see, Clinton lying about a blow job was a serious threat to national security, cause you know, Russia could have used that against him and compromised him.

which is why I was particularly angered at the lack of pushback from the others on the show, especially Dean. I know Dean isn't what he once was, but that disgusted me.

But I did speak with Howard a little over a week ago, and he isn't impressed with impeachment at this point if it means Pence as president to fill out Trump's term, even if there WERE 20 Republican senators who would vote to remove from office--something that is probably not the case. An unsuccessful impeachment would thus be a waste of time, as it was with Clinton.

As for Howard "not being what he once was," when did you last speak with him? He is just as sharp as he ever was, if a bit more realistic.

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who used to lean left but now appears to be shilling for the Right.

As for Howard "not being impressed with impeachment at this point". I'm afraid quite few of us aren't terribly impressed with Howard anymore.

My mention of his "not being who he once was" wasn't a reference to his intellect, but to his politics.

Going from a Progressive advocate of Single Payer Health Care to a paid lobbyist for a private health insurance firm hasn't exactly enhanced his
credibility with the progressive base.

He is not beholden to any "base." He lends his name to the firm mostly to get paid so he has an income. He does very little actual work for them. His schedule is mostly working for causes he believes in, giving speeches and working behind the scenes to help out liberal candidates in the USA and liberal parties abroad, and that does not include being invited to dinner soirées with Putin. I doubt anyone here on DU bothered to join him on his march from Bangkok to the Burmese border to raise awareness about human trafficking, or his efforts on environmental awareness in Switzerland and elsewhere. But no, all some people want to do is label him as a "lobbyist" without even trying to contact him and ask what he really IS up to. He hasn't abandoned his support of the idea of single payer, but he never had any illusions that it could be made the law of the land overnight, either. Better to get it gradually enacted into law than have some decree issued that will immediately be overturned by the first Republican judge the insurance companies can buy

I'll bet those who "aren't impressed with his politics any more" haven't spoken to him for ten seconds to ask him what his politics are, but get their impressions only from 3 minute TV talk show segments or internet blogs, and think they can read his mind. The Conrad Cornelius O'Donald O'Dell syndrome. No one, and I mean NO one, has done as much to advance the cause of the Democratic Party more than he has. He left his position as party chair in keeping with the tradition that when the party has the White House, the President is the party head, and the sitting party chair steps down to give the post to someone more subordinate. He left his post, not his ideals. Just because he doesn't go around trumpeting them for glory and headlines like some do, does not mean he has abandoned any ideals he held ten years ago. I can't stop anyone from making up their own mind about Howard, of course, but it sure as hell doesn't mean they know his.

Can anyone explain it?

in terms of what I've read and heard, is that Dean gave up advocating for Single Payer Health care when he decided to work as a lobbyist for a private health insurance company. All I've heard about Dershowitz is that he'll support anyone who supports Israel. Period.

his op-ed published in the Washington Post and syndicated into other papers this morning. I suppose it makes sense to him.....

Has anyone notified Professor Turley that we aren't in England? Perhaps he should go back to 1974, when the House was drawing up articles of impeachment of another Republican president. The charges being voted on at that time were obstruction of justice and abuse of power. Apparently, just over 40 years ago, those were considered serious enough charges to fit under the rubrick of "other high Crimes or Misdemeanors." I believe there is sufficient evidence in the public sphere (let alone whatever evidence the Mueller investigation has uncovered that isn't publicly available yet) to make a case for both of those charges.

In any event, this is just a little too precious ("the wrong reasons&quot coming from someone who personally helped impeach Clinton.

Never knew that!..Tell us about it..Enquiring minds want to know.

Not sure how you missed it. Feel free to click on the link.

and not the link and that's how I "missed it".

has not reached its conclusion. Patience is not a virtue I have in abundance.

and I share your lack of that virtue.