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dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:13 PM Aug 2017

Another reason to get out: Alligators

http://www.statesman.com/weather/hurricanes/texas-sheriff-office-shares-hurricane-gator-warning/KQsN27OIO91FNLKczQ5oUN/

FORT BEND COUNTY, Texas

As Hurricane Harvey headed toward Texas on Thursday, a frightening warning went out in Fort Bend County.

The sheriff's office in Richmond sent out a grim reminder with photos of alligators in areas of concern.

“As we learned last year, (alligators) certainly move around when it floods," deputies said.

Citing alligator rescue group Gator Squad, deputies warned people to expect alligators to be found in unusual spots.





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Another reason to get out: Alligators (Original Post) dalton99a Aug 2017 OP
wow!!! lol nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #1
It's like a bad SyFy movie come to life. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #2
When you see a tornado that is 99% composed of alligators then you will know its a bad syfy movie. cstanleytech Aug 2017 #18
Bingo. sandensea Aug 2017 #41
Have you seen the fire ants yet? Nevernose Aug 2017 #89
Gatornado! MineralMan Aug 2017 #3
Gatorcaine? moda253 Aug 2017 #25
GATORNAMI! forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #61
Oh noes! fleur-de-lisa Aug 2017 #4
It will be fat city for alligators Warpy Aug 2017 #5
Fort Bend resident here. We got this. No worries. elehhhhna Aug 2017 #59
Going to be a lot fewer stray dogs around after this Warpy Aug 2017 #63
Oh no! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #70
You can take them to shelters now Warpy Aug 2017 #74
This is one of the most wonderful lessons of Katrina. phylny Aug 2017 #90
Houston has a huge stray dog population n/t TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #77
That makes me sad. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #78
Stay safe malaise Aug 2017 #75
Forget gators. SNAKES! nolabear Aug 2017 #6
Of course dalton99a Aug 2017 #7
I am sick of these mother f'ng snakes in my tymorial Aug 2017 #12
yikes .. I would have starte the car and killed the snake immediatly. nt Le Gaucher Aug 2017 #14
I've killed two of these bastards madokie Aug 2017 #53
That's just some kind of colubrid or related species. Codeine Aug 2017 #81
That looks like a corn snake wryter2000 Aug 2017 #67
Corn snakes are just the best! Codeine Aug 2017 #82
Thanks wryter2000 Aug 2017 #83
Forget gators, huh? Just wait till you see what's coming through the doggie door! Tanuki Aug 2017 #34
Oh that's a baby. 😂 Good idea to keep the pets up though. nolabear Aug 2017 #47
Gatornado Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2017 #8
Thanks for the nightmare fuel. johnp3907 Aug 2017 #9
I can now see a reason for owning a gun. pnwmom Aug 2017 #10
It's really, really hard to kill one with a gun. nolabear Aug 2017 #48
Bazooka. At close range. Right through the screen door lol elehhhhna Aug 2017 #60
Firewood ChazInAz Aug 2017 #71
I Never Live Anywhere The River Aug 2017 #11
Yikes! All we've gotten is a bunch of frogs and ants. The gators pretty much stay in all their ponds kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #13
Yikes! Up here in WA, we're more likely to see salmon trying to cross the road in a flood. suffragette Aug 2017 #15
Love it! Solly Mack Aug 2017 #16
Hey Solly! Hope you're doing ok. Is Harvey coming near you? suffragette Aug 2017 #22
The rain started yesterday evening and is still going. We will get lots of rain from Harvey. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #26
Stay safe! Ironically, we have had very little rain in Seattle this summer. suffragette Aug 2017 #27
Thanks, suffragette. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #33
I'd take that trade! suffragette Aug 2017 #84
OK! I say that now as my yard begins to flood a little. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #85
Check in here now and then if you can. It will be good to know you're ok. suffragette Aug 2017 #86
Oh, wow, fresh salmon jberryhill Aug 2017 #17
Not the spawning ones. Don't want to mess with the next generation. suffragette Aug 2017 #23
They're pretty gross during spawning season. nolabear Aug 2017 #49
Yes, they do get pretty bashed up on their journey suffragette Aug 2017 #56
nice.... bluecollar2 Aug 2017 #76
I'm in SW Louisiana and when it floods here, you always look for gators and snakes. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #19
And fire ants! Those things are killers too. nolabear Aug 2017 #50
Beat me to it jpak Aug 2017 #54
When I see a circle or pile of floating ants, I go the other way. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #58
You develop those skills. I hope the newbies are paying attention! nolabear Aug 2017 #62
Good point! I hope they are too. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #69
No Venomous Snakes or Gators During Sandy in NYC TheOther95Percent Aug 2017 #64
Rats are great swimmers. I've seen them after a flood too. But they become food for the Solly Mack Aug 2017 #68
It was bad... TheOther95Percent Aug 2017 #79
I'd have been running too. Rats can become bold - bold enough to attack. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #80
Did Anyone See John Oliver This Past Weekend? Leith Aug 2017 #20
We have radioactive ants in Los Alamos, NM - not as impressive as gators !! womanofthehills Aug 2017 #30
Time for a new pair of alligator shoes Major Nikon Aug 2017 #21
In Florida we have snakes and gators, GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #24
Oh yes, the floating islands of fire ants dalton99a Aug 2017 #28
Jesus that gives me the willies. I remember them from Camille nolabear Aug 2017 #51
That would freak me out. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #73
In KY we have Republicans. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2017 #40
Don't forget my favorite Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #29
I really hate those damn things. Duppers Aug 2017 #55
Alligators don't attack humans oberliner Aug 2017 #31
That's why I always have some raw chicken in my pocket or... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2017 #36
Lol. You might want to double-check that truthiness. nt greyl Aug 2017 #37
When they attack you ToxMarz Aug 2017 #39
Not true. bluepen Aug 2017 #44
We've got wildfires in the summer MontanaMama Aug 2017 #32
GO GATORS! woofless Aug 2017 #35
(knock, knock) Candygram! Buns_of_Fire Aug 2017 #38
...or Gator-gram or Lanshark. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #43
LOL, my thought too. n/t FSogol Aug 2017 #66
Gatornado!! kairos12 Aug 2017 #42
Me, I'd rather deal with a gator. lpbk2713 Aug 2017 #45
Exactly! Duppers Aug 2017 #57
There are better reasons to leave. Alligators will be bluepen Aug 2017 #46
If I went out to get in my truck madokie Aug 2017 #52
Candygram! FSogol Aug 2017 #65
What's the alligator equivalent of Sharknado? Martin Eden Aug 2017 #72
This is from my county Gothmog Aug 2017 #87
Meh, pay attention and you're fine. n/t X_Digger Aug 2017 #88

sandensea

(21,664 posts)
41. Bingo.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:46 PM
Aug 2017

What if those are not alligators but rather - tam, tam, tam! - members of the Bush family flooded out of their Houston lair!

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
89. Have you seen the fire ants yet?
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:49 PM
Aug 2017

They'll make people-sized floating, swimming islands.

The snakes go batshit crazy, too, but that's not even the scary part. There are four types of poisonous snake in North America, and Brazoria County, next to Houston, is the only place where all four live.

Of course those things are only of concern if you live through the rain, flooding, winds, and tornadoes.

(Hang on, folks. This storm will pass, too!)

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
5. It will be fat city for alligators
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:23 PM
Aug 2017

who hunt near even large puddles. As long as they can drown their prey, they'll eat.

Snakes are also going to be invading anything on high ground that's dry as their burrows flood.

This is going to be a mess of biblical proportions.

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
74. You can take them to shelters now
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:25 PM
Aug 2017

They finally learned their lesson about that during and after Katrina. A lot of people didn't evacuate because they couldn't bring their furkids along.

I know one guy who died because he evacuated and couldn't stand the idea of his cats facing the flooding alone. He died when he went back for them.

phylny

(8,386 posts)
90. This is one of the most wonderful lessons of Katrina.
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 04:50 PM
Aug 2017

I would never leave my dogs to fend for themselves.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
78. That makes me sad.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:57 PM
Aug 2017

People will probably take care of their own pets, but those poor strays are probably on their own. I hope some kind souls help them out.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
6. Forget gators. SNAKES!
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:26 PM
Aug 2017

Gators are pretty easy to spot and they'll run from you. They also don't typically eat on land.

But baby, cottonmouths and moccasins will abound. Take it from a Camille veteran and one who knows far too many Katrina veterans.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
53. I've killed two of these bastards
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:13 PM
Aug 2017

in my yard this summer. The first one was 32 inches long but the last one was a whopping 45 fucking inches long. I can't leave them when I find one in my yard, sorry

I'm telling you this OLD man can move pretty DAMN quick when I see one of the cotton mouths in my yard too.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
81. That's just some kind of colubrid or related species.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:02 PM
Aug 2017

Harmless and good at pest control. Leave the poor guys alone.

wryter2000

(46,081 posts)
67. That looks like a corn snake
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:53 PM
Aug 2017

Harmless unless you're a mouse or rat. Very beneficial creatures. I have one as a pet

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
82. Corn snakes are just the best!
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:06 PM
Aug 2017

My last one needed an operation because he somehow contrived to prolapse his own penis (hemipenes in snake lingo.) Even in obvious discomfort he was docile and eminently manageable.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
47. Oh that's a baby. 😂 Good idea to keep the pets up though.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:00 PM
Aug 2017

Btw I didn't mean a gator won't kill on land. They really prefer to eat in the water though, probably because they have advantages over just about everything else.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
10. I can now see a reason for owning a gun.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:36 PM
Aug 2017

I probably wouldn't, but I could understand people who would want to. In the face of that on my front porch.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
48. It's really, really hard to kill one with a gun.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:04 PM
Aug 2017

They're damn near armored. There are vulnerable spots but you have to be good. Honestly on land you're likely fine if you just stay clear and call animal control. In the aftermath of a hurricane of course all bets are off.

ChazInAz

(2,572 posts)
71. Firewood
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:13 PM
Aug 2017

I don't think throwing those chunks of firewood at a gator would make him go away. Unless the homeowner was trying to play "fetch".

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
13. Yikes! All we've gotten is a bunch of frogs and ants. The gators pretty much stay in all their ponds
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:40 PM
Aug 2017

lakes and canals.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
15. Yikes! Up here in WA, we're more likely to see salmon trying to cross the road in a flood.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 03:47 PM
Aug 2017
https://m.


We bite them instead of them biting us.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
22. Hey Solly! Hope you're doing ok. Is Harvey coming near you?
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:14 PM
Aug 2017

Watching salmon return to spawning grounds is inspiring. They persist until they reach home. When I was a teenager I went to a spawning ground to watch. They were stacked up nearly atop each other in the shallow area of the river. It was deep in the woods so the only sound was their splashing and the birds.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
26. The rain started yesterday evening and is still going. We will get lots of rain from Harvey.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:19 PM
Aug 2017

Shouldn't be any serious flooding though. We'll see.

The salmon watching sounds wonderful.

Thanks!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
27. Stay safe! Ironically, we have had very little rain in Seattle this summer.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:22 PM
Aug 2017

Broke a record from the fifties for least measurable rain, then when we finally had some it was barely a drizzle.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
33. Thanks, suffragette.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:30 PM
Aug 2017

It should be OK. I know people need rain, but I'd trade for a dry spell. It's been a very wet summer already.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
85. OK! I say that now as my yard begins to flood a little.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 04:05 AM
Aug 2017

We recently had new gutters put in out back and that has helped a lot but not enough it seems.

The weather person said tonight the worst for our area was yet to come - tomorrow and then over the next 24 hours.

If I get any gators or snakes, I'll snap a few photos. (as long as it can be done safely)

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
23. Not the spawning ones. Don't want to mess with the next generation.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:16 PM
Aug 2017

Better to go fishing or head to the Rez for some genuine alder smoked salmon.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
49. They're pretty gross during spawning season.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:06 PM
Aug 2017

That trip literally kills them so they're not what you'd call healthy and happy.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
19. I'm in SW Louisiana and when it floods here, you always look for gators and snakes.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:08 PM
Aug 2017

Always.

Same when I lived in Florida years ago. Flood waters meant gators and snakes on the street.

Same in southwest Georgia when I was there. It flooded, out came the gators and snakes.

Come to think of it, I've spent a lot of my life around gators and snakes.

Love the photos. That top photo shows a gator that has been snout banded before. He's been caught, counted, then released.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
50. And fire ants! Those things are killers too.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:07 PM
Aug 2017

Nothing like getting into a floating fire ant colony to know what pain is.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
58. When I see a circle or pile of floating ants, I go the other way.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:29 PM
Aug 2017

When I see gators, I'll investigate from a safe distance.

I get out of the way of cottonmouths, as well. That's the snake I see the most right after a flood.

That should tell people about how bad fire ants are after a flood.

I'd rather run up on an alligator than to land in a floating pile of fire ants - which I treat as just as deadly as a poisonous snake. (because people can die from fire ant stings)

I've had my feet and lower legs bitten by fire ants. Lots of bites. Lots of those ugly bumps - - those icky white pustules. Painful isn't a strong enough word for how it feels.

I know people can die from alligator attacks but they're bigger, easier to see, making them easier to avoid.

You have to actively look at that pile of debris floating by to see if it's crawling.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
64. No Venomous Snakes or Gators During Sandy in NYC
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:48 PM
Aug 2017

Rats were a different story though.

Turns out rats are pretty good swimmers.

Sandy forced many out from underground onto the NYC surface where it's a virtual rat paradise.

Think Pizza Rat, Bagel Rat, Hot Dog Rat.

The rodents have been living it up feasting on garbage.

A good friend is in pest control and half of his business is keeping rats at bay from some very tony addresses in Manhattan.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
68. Rats are great swimmers. I've seen them after a flood too. But they become food for the
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:02 PM
Aug 2017

larger predators. The fire ants will attack and kill them too. As will the snakes. So, never many and never for long. Except around New Orleans. They have rat problems after a flood.

But you don't really want gators and such around either.

Rats are very intelligent but I don't want to see bunches of them out and about either. I can't imagine how bad it was for larger cities. Yikes! That sounds like a lot of rats.





This is a Nutria Rat and its young.



We have lots of them here. As well as regular old rats.





TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
79. It was bad...
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:44 PM
Aug 2017

I had to be down by Water Street about 8 months after the storm. It was shortly after nightfall and the garbage from businesses was piled on the sidewalk. There were rats as big as cats strolling down the street sampling the local delicacies. Hubs and I walked down the middle of the street. More recently, around Christmas we were strolling in Central Park at dusk and came upon a rat confab. You have never seen two middle-aged NYers run in a more undignified manner!

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
80. I'd have been running too. Rats can become bold - bold enough to attack.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:49 PM
Aug 2017

And that is a horribly creepy thought.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. In Florida we have snakes and gators,
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:16 PM
Aug 2017

But the worse in a flood are the fire ants!

Wade in the water and they are all over you in a heartbeat.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
51. Jesus that gives me the willies. I remember them from Camille
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:09 PM
Aug 2017

and heard Katrina horror stories. Heck, any nasty flood. My sister got into a nest once and she was lucky she was only made miserable.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
73. That would freak me out.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:16 PM
Aug 2017

So would the snakes and gators. I think I would have a harder time with that than the wind and storm surge. Ugh!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
40. In KY we have Republicans.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:38 PM
Aug 2017

Lots of vicious, hateful Republicans. They may even bite or sting. Is there an anti-venom?

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
29. Don't forget my favorite
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:25 PM
Aug 2017

Water Moccasins. Evil, aggressive, poisons and for some odd reason, enamored of me. I have been chased by them more times than I can count.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
55. I really hate those damn things.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:25 PM
Aug 2017

We have wooded lakefront property. The back of our lot has damn water moccasins. Was down there helping clean brush out one day when my friend yelled at me, STOP, look up. Not five feet in front of me was one of those damn things hanging in the tree and I was seconds from walking right into him. He was BIG too.

I never go down there anymore.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,377 posts)
36. That's why I always have some raw chicken in my pocket or...
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:34 PM
Aug 2017

a small yappy dog on a leash.

Or an annoying small niece or nephew. That smells like raw chicken. And is yappy.


MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
32. We've got wildfires in the summer
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:28 PM
Aug 2017

and deep snow in the winter and I'd take all of that any day instead of gators, snakes and fire ants. Oh hell no.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
45. Me, I'd rather deal with a gator.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017



Than a cottonmouth or a copperhead seeking refuge.
They don't spook and run away too easily.

bluepen

(620 posts)
46. There are better reasons to leave. Alligators will be
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:57 PM
Aug 2017

"displaced" for weeks, and many of them will stay wherever they end up. Small freshwater pond nearby? New home for the gator.

Been through this all my life on the coast of SC.

And if people are right on the beach, they have even less to worry about. Gators will flee saltwater areas fast.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
52. If I went out to get in my truck
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:10 PM
Aug 2017

I'd shit down both legs if an alligator was under it like in that last picture

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
72. What's the alligator equivalent of Sharknado?
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:15 PM
Aug 2017

Looking forward to the orange shartcannon getting his head bit off in the movie.

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