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global1

(25,270 posts)
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:38 PM Aug 2017

Does Anyone Think That The People Of Texas That Voted Repug Might Think Twice The Next Time.....

They are now dealing with a 500 year hurricane/flood. After being led down the path that 'climate change' is not real by the Repugs and Trump - does anyone think that they might have some different thoughts about that now? Do you think they feel hoodwinked now?

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Does Anyone Think That The People Of Texas That Voted Repug Might Think Twice The Next Time..... (Original Post) global1 Aug 2017 OP
No. LonePirate Aug 2017 #1
Absolutely not. Glorfindel Aug 2017 #2
And if they make it through this, it'll be god and not the gummint Warpy Aug 2017 #4
Precisely! Glorfindel Aug 2017 #18
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #3
It Distrurbs Me To Read The Response Comments To My OP..... global1 Aug 2017 #25
Depends on who you are talking about. We now know beyond ANY question Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #30
IMO, dems have never known how to fight the pubs. Probably because dems are better RKP5637 Aug 2017 #32
Then We Need To Very Vociferously Tell The Voters That..... global1 Aug 2017 #36
Also, dems need to unite. IMO there is far too much bickering about this one or that one. That, RKP5637 Aug 2017 #49
Exactly I have been saying this for a long time gopiscrap Aug 2017 #61
Maybe we ought to start street fighting meow2u3 Aug 2017 #66
LBJ was a tough guy. He didn't take any BS from republicans. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #71
Nope, you are not the only one. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #54
That would imply that Trump voters have a brain. Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #5
To these people, living in the End Times is a feature, not a bug. tritsofme Aug 2017 #6
Though I'm sure it's a little jarring for some of them gratuitous Aug 2017 #19
No Chipper Chat Aug 2017 #7
Most Texans would never link fossil fuels to climate change rurallib Aug 2017 #11
And We As Dems Let Them Get Away With That All The Time....nt global1 Aug 2017 #26
No of course not. nycbos Aug 2017 #8
A few may draw the connection, depending on the national conversation in the days and weeks ahead Orangeutan Aug 2017 #9
I DOUBT many of them will attribute this Hurricane to climate change. Nobody in authority in napi21 Aug 2017 #10
I think if you google Texas election results map you'll find the Houston area tends to be blue Johonny Aug 2017 #12
the ones suffering the most did vote against the POS, if they were eligible Motley13 Aug 2017 #13
Thinking republicans? That's hi-larious NightWatcher Aug 2017 #14
not for a second. they hate what their guy hates. they will never admit they were wrong. spanone Aug 2017 #15
From a post I just saw on Facebook... Different Drummer Aug 2017 #16
No, because only TEXAS matters to any GOP voter in TEXAS. n/t USALiberal Aug 2017 #17
I think they are in shock Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #20
I don't think this is the time for the discussion of "who they might vote for now" Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #21
I thought this was a political discussion forum jberryhill Aug 2017 #28
It is certainly a political discussion forum... Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #34
I don't think discussions on a political discussion forum are for "showing" anyone anything jberryhill Aug 2017 #37
I Agree We Shouldn't Make This Political - But.... global1 Aug 2017 #29
No post here will stop any rescue efforts in Houston. It is a "discussion" board! n/t USALiberal Aug 2017 #56
I have loved ones there too, but this is silly. Someone posited a question. Like you do Squinch Aug 2017 #63
We have flood problems here in Fl, I'm not offended by this question. The thought did pop into my kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #65
Oh, boy. I'm sorry for your troubles. Don't take any chances with driving in floods. Squinch Aug 2017 #67
I know, scary..... Most of the rain dried up by Monday. The streets were flooded on Sat & Sun. kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #70
No. MO went through the same thing in 1993. MoonRiver Aug 2017 #22
Texas Just Passed a New Law That Could Screw Harvey Victims mrJJ Aug 2017 #23
Just look who won Louisianna edhopper Aug 2017 #24
Of course not jberryhill Aug 2017 #27
The republican legislature could show up offering Ilsa Aug 2017 #31
well if they have electricity and a tv in the shelters, otherwise they are thinking... samnsara Aug 2017 #33
No blue cat Aug 2017 #35
How Come I Hear And Read Where Texas Could Go Blue?.... global1 Aug 2017 #38
As long as Jesus continues to endorse Republicans, that's the way it will go jberryhill Aug 2017 #39
Houston is blue. blogslut Aug 2017 #41
No unfortunately. JDC Aug 2017 #40
Not until the end of voter suppression and gerry mandering uponit7771 Aug 2017 #42
They might see Harvey as divine vindication. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #43
Don't Give Them Any Ideas Here.....nt global1 Aug 2017 #47
Not a CHANCE Wiseman32218 Aug 2017 #44
No. ileus Aug 2017 #45
We need to reach out to those who DIDN'T vote struggle4progress Aug 2017 #46
No. Bettie Aug 2017 #48
No. Golden Raisin Aug 2017 #50
The second amendment will be repealed before that happens. Tatiana Aug 2017 #51
Not likely CanonRay Aug 2017 #52
Nope. CentralMass Aug 2017 #53
No. tenderfoot Aug 2017 #55
Of course not. Doreen Aug 2017 #57
No. Best we can hope for is those that did not vote will turn out to vote Democratic Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #58
The jet stream across canada us border has stalled. That means high pressure applegrove Aug 2017 #59
No, they want to please their abusers. yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2017 #60
Was reading a thread on Politico on my FB feed Sugarcoated Aug 2017 #62
Only if it starts happening several times a year, then only maybe..... kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #64
I live in Florida where hurricanes have zig-zagged back and forth. I have yet to hear many Repugs kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #68
nope 0rganism Aug 2017 #69
It's Houston that is getting hit. Houston hasn't elected a Republican Mayor since 1980. EL34x4 Aug 2017 #72
No. You can't fix stupid. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #73
Right now, and for the forseeable future oneshooter Aug 2017 #74

Glorfindel

(9,735 posts)
2. Absolutely not.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

They will be more zealous in their support of Repukes than ever. They will also firmly believe that they are entitled to aid in times of crisis but the people of New York and New Jersey are not.

Warpy

(111,341 posts)
4. And if they make it through this, it'll be god and not the gummint
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:43 PM
Aug 2017

who pulled them out of the flood and took them to shelters.

global1

(25,270 posts)
25. It Distrurbs Me To Read The Response Comments To My OP.....
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:44 PM
Aug 2017

I always ask when Trump or the Repugs do something to affect our country that is outrageous - how would they handle it if the shoe were on the other foot and it was the Dems doing the things that the Repugs and Trump do and get away with.

I'm amazed to see the comments here that are so negative to the Dems. We know that the Repugs and Trump capitalized on every move that Obama and the Dems made and found ways to blame the Dems/Obama or to make themselves look good.

It seems like we here at Democratic Underground and our Dem representatives are our own worst enemies. We let Trump and the Repugs get away with things. We make excuses for Trump and the Repugs and we never hold their feet to the fire. So what do you expect? Give them an inch and they take a mile.

The Repugs are also good at using the 'power of suggestion' to put thoughts in the minds of the American voters.

Why don't we Dems use the same tactics. I know the saying is "When they go low - we go high" but we are losing to the Repugs because we don't fight like they do.

I'm worried because we have a great opportunity in 2018 to take back the House and Senate. However, it appears that we are beat before we even start - because it looks like we always take a defeatist attitude about things.

If I'm the only one that feels this way - tell me - and I'll shut up.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
30. Depends on who you are talking about. We now know beyond ANY question
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:49 PM
Aug 2017

that jobs or the economy was NOT the reason white people voted for him, making America white again is why they voted for him.

We know that, the data is there.

But if you are talking about that at most 2% of the voting public (which to your argument, 2% of the voting public is actually a large number, as opposed to 2% of the public) who can be swayed to stop voting against themselves, who do not hold racism higher than not starving on their table of importance, then yes.

I think that group exists and we can deal with that but NOT if we do it at the expense of allowing continued racism or misogyny.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
32. IMO, dems have never known how to fight the pubs. Probably because dems are better
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:51 PM
Aug 2017

people and do not resort to street fighting, perpetual lies and criminal activities to win at all costs. The pubs win for themselves, not the country. The dems win for the country. Pubs will shit on the country if it makes them a dollar.

global1

(25,270 posts)
36. Then We Need To Very Vociferously Tell The Voters That.....
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:27 PM
Aug 2017

and maybe we need to run the type of campaign that they do. You know - appeal to the one issue voter.

We should target groups (i.e., seniors, women; the sick; millenials (with student loans); LGBTQ's; Transgender's; etc) and point out to them how the Repugs actions effect these groups.

We can't afford to run a campaign again just against Trump. The Repugs gave us Trump. They enabled him from the very beginning and they are still circling the wagons for this joke of a president.

We need to run the 2018 campaign against the Repugs. There is certainly enough material to sink the Repugs and take back the House and Senate. If we're able to do that we can effectively then neuter Trump - if he is still president by 2018.

I don't think it is street fighting or fighting dirty to run such a campaign. And we can still do that without telling lies or resorting to criminal activities to win.

The Repugs have laid out our campaign for us for 2018 to take back Congress. Yet they are spreading the word that the Dems don't have a platform - that we don't know what the Dem Party stands for. We do know what we stand for. You said in your response.

Dems are better people and the Dems win for the country/for the People.

From some of the responses here on DU - I'm not sure that many Dems believe that. We have to start believing. We can do this. We can take back the House and Senate in 2018.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
49. Also, dems need to unite. IMO there is far too much bickering about this one or that one. That,
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:47 PM
Aug 2017

keeps us divided and meanwhile Trump, his cohorts, pubs and the evilness marches forward. Dems need to stop the drama aimed at each other!!!!! And unite!!!!!

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
61. Exactly I have been saying this for a long time
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 10:53 PM
Aug 2017

we need to be as dirty as possible it's the only way we are going to win

meow2u3

(24,773 posts)
66. Maybe we ought to start street fighting
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 05:57 PM
Aug 2017

Street fighting is all the repukes understand and the dirtier, the better.

When they go low, we must go even lower, taking a page out of LBJ's playbook: start rumors attacking repukes where the live just so we can hear them deny it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
54. Nope, you are not the only one.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:54 PM
Aug 2017

But I'm kind of tired right now and don't feel like going into a big explanation. Just know that you aren't alone in your frustration.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Though I'm sure it's a little jarring for some of them
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:49 PM
Aug 2017

They read over those descriptions of tribulation and trouble with a near-pornographic glee, never thinking that any of that misfortune is going to be visited on them.

Chipper Chat

(9,687 posts)
7. No
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:45 PM
Aug 2017

The GOP has methodically begun the process of blaming the hurricane problems on democrats. Especially democratic mayors. Eventually everything will be Obama s fsult. Fox News and rightwing talk radio will tell us so.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
11. Most Texans would never link fossil fuels to climate change
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:47 PM
Aug 2017

after all, fossil fuels are their game.

For that matter - what climate change?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. I DOUBT many of them will attribute this Hurricane to climate change. Nobody in authority in
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:46 PM
Aug 2017

Texas is going to try to convince them of it, and as much as I've slammed this admin. their response to Harvey beats the Katrina one by many miles.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
12. I think if you google Texas election results map you'll find the Houston area tends to be blue
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:47 PM
Aug 2017

and other flooded parts are pinkish areas of the state. Thus, I think you'll find that this has no effect on the more conservative parts of Texas.

Different Drummer

(7,642 posts)
16. From a post I just saw on Facebook...
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:48 PM
Aug 2017

I would say Texas will always support Trump and will always be solidly Republican. My cousin who lives in Texas (she is in Mission and says Harvey has not had an effect on the people there) shared a post from someone in Houston criticizing "the liberal media" for their coverage of Harvey.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
20. I think they are in shock
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:52 PM
Aug 2017

It will be awhile before they know the extent of the damage and when and/or if they will be able to put it back together.

Docreed2003

(16,876 posts)
21. I don't think this is the time for the discussion of "who they might vote for now"
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:07 PM
Aug 2017

I'm not trying to be argumentative but, honestly, in this moment, I couldn't care less about who the people of Houston may or may not vote for. My sole concern is that we have members of our families, fellow DU'ers and we have fellow Americans who are stuck and facing circumstances that are unimaginable to most of us here. When any American struggles, I don't care about their political persuasion, my concern is for them as a human being. I think we should take a step back and remember that...there will be plenty of time for politics and changing minds after we have begun to dig out and recover from this storm.

Docreed2003

(16,876 posts)
34. It is certainly a political discussion forum...
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:02 PM
Aug 2017

But I think we can hold ourselves to a higher standard than the right. We can talk about changing minds after the storm has passed. Right now, if we want to show that we truly are on the side of the people in Houston, politics should play no role in that, unless it's fighting for the resources they need to recover from this catastrophe.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. I don't think discussions on a political discussion forum are for "showing" anyone anything
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:30 PM
Aug 2017

I can't for the life of me figure out the objection to discussing politics on a political forum.

Nothing anyone posts on DU means doodly-squat to anyone in need one way or the other. I've donated what I can and am not nearby with a boat, but I doubt anyone with no power who is holed up in their home or a shelter at the moment gives a rats ass what anyone is posting on a political discussion forum.

People are going to post about politics on a political discussion forum. That's the way it is.

And, oh yeah, the first words out of Gov. Abbott's mouth last night during one of his interviews was "Texans are the best!" So, notwithstanding my existence as a lesser creature for not being a Texan, maybe they'll accept whatever my donation affords.

global1

(25,270 posts)
29. I Agree We Shouldn't Make This Political - But....
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:48 PM
Aug 2017

tell that to the Repugs that are running ads on the Weather Channel to support Trump.

Squinch

(51,010 posts)
63. I have loved ones there too, but this is silly. Someone posited a question. Like you do
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 08:11 AM
Aug 2017

on a political board.

If you didn't want to participate in the conversation, you could have just moved past it.

On that tall, tall horse.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
65. We have flood problems here in Fl, I'm not offended by this question. The thought did pop into my
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 05:57 PM
Aug 2017

head, actually. I'd rather think about politics than worry about whether or not I'll be able to make it out of my driveway tomorrow for work.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
70. I know, scary..... Most of the rain dried up by Monday. The streets were flooded on Sat & Sun.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:50 PM
Aug 2017

You have to avoid a lot of roads when it rains hard here.

mrJJ

(886 posts)
23. Texas Just Passed a New Law That Could Screw Harvey Victims
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:25 PM
Aug 2017

People have until Friday to file insurance claims, otherwise it could cost them big.

This story was originally published by the Texas Tribune.

For many Texans ravaged by the rain and winds Hurricane Harvey carried ashore this past weekend, filing an insurance claim for the damage their property sustained is probably the farthest thing from their minds right now. But waiting to submit a claim past Friday could cost them big.
A new law set to take effect Friday aims to crack down on frivolous insurance lawsuits. But House Bill 1774 also reduces the penalty interest rate insurance companies face for late payments if the policyholder files a lawsuit.
If insurance companies are late in paying claims as a result of a lawsuit, they must pay an additional penalty to policyholders. Under current state law, that penalty comes in the form of a fee that totals 18 percent of the claim. For claims filed after Friday, that rate will be determined by a market-based formula that is capped at 20 percent. Currently, the rate would be 10 percent.
While people filing claims by Friday would benefit from the higher penalty payouts in lawsuits, those same cases would be subject to provisions in the new law. Those provisions would decrease the chances insurance companies will have to pay the plaintiff’s attorneys fees in full and protect agents from being personally sued.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-just-passed-a-new-law-that-could-screw-harvey-victims

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
31. The republican legislature could show up offering
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:50 PM
Aug 2017

everyone a bucket of water they just filled from the ditch, and they'd say "thank you, you got any more?" and vote for them again.

samnsara

(17,635 posts)
33. well if they have electricity and a tv in the shelters, otherwise they are thinking...
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:55 PM
Aug 2017

...trumps working hard to fix all this!

global1

(25,270 posts)
38. How Come I Hear And Read Where Texas Could Go Blue?....
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:30 PM
Aug 2017

Someone here on this thread suggested that Houston is Blue. What will it take to turn Texas blue?

blogslut

(38,016 posts)
41. Houston is blue.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:46 PM
Aug 2017

All four of our largest cities are blue. Texas is also a majority/minority state.

However, gerrymandering, voter suppression and the fact that vast numbers of voters live in rural areas mean that a blue Texas is a long way off.

I would take some stupendous fuckuppery to flip Texas from red to blue by 2020. Then again, if anyone can accomplish such fuckuppery, it's a guy like BLOTUS.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
43. They might see Harvey as divine vindication.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 07:50 PM
Aug 2017

The hurricane affected Houston, Austin, and San Antonio-the bluest cities in the state.

Dallas, Lubbock, Amarillo, Waco were unaffected.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
48. No.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:23 PM
Aug 2017

They will all tell themselves that they got caught up in "god's punishment" of the gays and the liberals.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
51. The second amendment will be repealed before that happens.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:51 PM
Aug 2017

That culture is so... warped in so many ways. There are people who would vote for their own executioner if he or she was a Republican.

Voting for a Democrat is akin to blasphemy. It is a shame what happened to the great state that produced Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, and Lyndon B. Johnson.

applegrove

(118,778 posts)
59. The jet stream across canada us border has stalled. That means high pressure
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 09:31 PM
Aug 2017

system throughout the US West is stalled and it is boxing in Harvey. CBC News Johanna Wagstaffe meteorologist says the stalled jet stream is climate change related. It has recently been proven.

Sugarcoated

(7,728 posts)
62. Was reading a thread on Politico on my FB feed
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 11:02 PM
Aug 2017

about how we knew this was coming and nobody cared. One of the commenters said, "Just another storm"....smh

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
68. I live in Florida where hurricanes have zig-zagged back and forth. I have yet to hear many Repugs
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 06:00 PM
Aug 2017

make a connection.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
72. It's Houston that is getting hit. Houston hasn't elected a Republican Mayor since 1980.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 07:01 PM
Aug 2017

Since 1982, It's been Democrats running Houston.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
74. Right now, and for the forseeable future
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 10:19 PM
Aug 2017

Politics are off the plate. You would only save democrats? NO, everybody is in this together, and in TEXAS everybody works together to get the job done. Take your divisive politics to some where else, WE have work to do.

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