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KelleyKramer

(8,961 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:02 AM Aug 2017

Amid mounting bipartisan concerns, debate over Trump's mental health takes off



Amid mounting bipartisan concerns, debate over Trump's mental health takes off

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/23/amid-mounting-concerns-presidents-mental-health-more-complicated-than-citing-narcissism-erraticism/490096001/

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Then James Clapper, who served in top intelligence jobs under former Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, Wednesday morning questioned Trump's "fitness to be in this office" and said he was worried about the president's access to the nuclear codes. Clapper, who had a long military career, is a close friend and longtime colleague of Trump's Defense Secretary, Jim Mattis, a former Marine Corps general.

"If in a fit of pique he decides to do something about Kim Jong Un, there's actually very little to stop him," Clapper, former head of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said on CNN. "The whole system is built to ensure rapid response if necessary. So there's very little in the way of controls over exercising a nuclear option, which is pretty damn scary."

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Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., a former constitutional law professor at American University, sponsored legislation in April that would set up an independent commission to determine if any president no longer has the physical or mental capacity to perform the duties of the office. The 25th Amendment to the constitution was ratified 50 years ago and calls for such a body but it was never set up.

The bill now has 28 co-sponsors and while more can't be added until Congress goes back into session Sept. 5, Raskin says there's been "a sudden spike after every acute episode" involving Trump's behavior. "We need every tool in the constitutional tool kit to be able to deal with the unfolding and accelerating crisis of presidential power in America today," says Raskin.


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Amid mounting bipartisan concerns, debate over Trump's mental health takes off (Original Post) KelleyKramer Aug 2017 OP
K&R CentralMass Aug 2017 #1
Yes, it's bi partisan. Hieronymus Aug 2017 #2
This was obvious during the primaries DFW Aug 2017 #3
Every step of the way, the GOP godfathers had the means to stop this madness. And they did not. Hekate Aug 2017 #10
The whole sequence reminded me of a scene in "Cabaret" DFW Aug 2017 #11
Tosh! Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #4
If The GOP in Congress and his cabinet REALLY wanted to BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5
I would hope that some wiser and saner member of his "team" has roomtomove Aug 2017 #6
read the second paragraph again KelleyKramer Aug 2017 #7
It doesn't take Sigmund Freud to know Trump is nuts. Vinca Aug 2017 #8
Recommend. inanna Aug 2017 #9

DFW

(54,379 posts)
3. This was obvious during the primaries
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:16 AM
Aug 2017

It speaks volumes about Republicans that this fraud won their primary (Fox Noise gets their man), and got 62+ million votes, although I realize that Henry The Horse would have gotten nearly as many votes as long as he was running with an "R" in front of his name.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
10. Every step of the way, the GOP godfathers had the means to stop this madness. And they did not.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 12:24 PM
Aug 2017

They could have refused to let him run as a Republican. They could have stood up in defense of their traditional candidates (any or all) instead of watching while Trump picked them off one by one. They could have stopped him at the Convention -- seriously, they had the means. And finally, they could have at least tried to work on the Electoral College.

My husband and I watched Trump's progress last year, absolutely sickened by both him and the Republican Party.

Since then, it's been the gutting and downfall of our country's most cherished institutions, with the complicity of the GOP in Congress.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
11. The whole sequence reminded me of a scene in "Cabaret"
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 12:51 PM
Aug 2017

Liza Minelli and Michael York were asking "Max! if he was worried about the Nazis, and he said no, the Nazis would get rid of the communists and then "we" would get rid of the Nazis. When asked who's "we," Max answers, "the Germans." As history showed, "the Germans" were too little too late, and the Nazis became "the Germans," or at least enough of them to make it dire health risk to speak out against them.

By the way, though I have spelled this out in another thread, "Nazi" is not some special designation, but nothing more than an abbreviation for the German word for "National" as in "Nationalist." Their party was the NSDAP, or National Socialist German (Deutsche) Workers (Arbeiter) Party. The word "National," French in origin, is pronounced in French as "Nah-see-oh-nahl," and in German as "NAH-tsee-oh-nahl." In words of French origin, where the French pronounce the "t" like an "s," the Germans pronounce it like their "z" which is an English "ts." This is why Mozart is pronounced "MOH-tsart." Since Europeans love to abbreviate everything (the Socialists, "Sozialisten," are the Sozis, or "ZOH-tsees" in German). The Nationalists ("NAH-tsee-oh-nah-nahl-iss-ten" ) were shortened to "NAH-tsees," which in German would have been written Nazis.

BigmanPigman

(51,592 posts)
5. If The GOP in Congress and his cabinet REALLY wanted to
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 04:00 AM
Aug 2017

they could've done it long ago. Could have, would have and should have...but they do nothing and will do nothing. They have proven this for 8 months.

Obstruction of Justice, Emoluments Clause, 25th Amend.,

If a Dem had done 1/10 of what he has done, he'd be in the pokey right now.

roomtomove

(217 posts)
6. I would hope that some wiser and saner member of his "team" has
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 05:02 AM
Aug 2017

already taken the nuclear control away, say, by giving him fake codes or fake buttons that alarm somewhere else.

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